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« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2007, 10:58:27 PM »
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Now that spit got "clipped"!:rofl



Ummm...you need a harsher word than clipped...
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« Reply #16 on: April 20, 2007, 11:19:26 PM »
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heres a good idea for a new Spit..the pre-wrecked spit:rofl


Well, that "Spit" is a Hurri.

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« Reply #17 on: April 21, 2007, 10:32:29 AM »
They do well clipped too :D

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« Reply #18 on: April 21, 2007, 12:05:04 PM »
Well we used to have the LF Vc.

At the time myself and most of the Spit fans were all for replacing it with the earlier F Vb during the remodel.

However -
For scenarios and MW arena it looks like we could really do with it coming back, and it could be clipped.

Also it's a reasonable stand-in for a Seafire L III, nothing else we have at the moment is.

So add the LF Vc, the XII (highest scoring sqn in 43 flew XII's) and the 1945 F.21 you basically have as much of a complete Spit lineup as anyone could want.

HT - Fix the Seafire IIc please.
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« Reply #19 on: April 21, 2007, 03:14:15 PM »
Actually we used to have the 1942 Spit Vb (+16 lbs).

...The Spit LF Vb is a +18 lb boost machine with a low alt Merlin. It did @350 TAS at only 5k.
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Re: Clipped Spitfire V
« Reply #20 on: April 21, 2007, 03:18:00 PM »
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Can we have 1 more spit variant? :)


no,no and no. there is no god dang way another spit in needed.

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« Reply #21 on: April 21, 2007, 06:43:12 PM »
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Can we have 1 more spit variant? :)



Depends can we have more 38s? :t
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« Reply #22 on: April 21, 2007, 08:12:22 PM »
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Actually we used to have the 1942 Spit Vb (+16 lbs).

...The Spit LF Vb is a +18 lb boost machine with a low alt Merlin. It did @350 TAS at only 5k.


I think you'll find it was the Vc, I don't recall any Vb carrying 120 x 20mm rounds
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« Reply #23 on: April 21, 2007, 08:42:12 PM »
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Depends can we have more 38s? :t


Sure! The more the merrier! More for everybody! :)

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« Reply #24 on: April 22, 2007, 04:56:30 PM »
It was a "Spit V" generic, really, they redid the new one as a "Vb" specifically with the update, but as a "1941 Spit Vb" according to what PYRO said.  

They never claimed any specific sub type with the older AH Spit V, but it was in fact a "1942 Spit Vc"  by its armament and boost (120 rpg and +16 boost).

A Spitfire L.F. V was an +18 lb boost machine, with an "M" type Merlin, many with clipped wings, some without. We never had that in AH. The LF V was built for low level ops and was much faster than a Spit Vb or Spit Vc was down low.
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« Reply #25 on: April 22, 2007, 09:52:48 PM »
We need more jugs! :t
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« Reply #26 on: April 23, 2007, 12:46:44 AM »
Sooo,

We got for allies
two 51s
three 38's
Four variants of the F4u and P-47's
SEVEN Spitties
aaaaaaaaand a  paaaaartrige in a pear treeeeeeeeee!


For Axis
6 types of Bf 109
4 types of the Fw
and... um... 2?   ... yeah two A6M types
Two Bf110
and um... umm.... hmmm...

hmmm... not much else. Either way, don't let the variant game let you get bogged down on semantics.  Even without 85% of the IJN/IJA variants, Germany is pretty much covered for fighters.  Japan's airforce was a joke except for Pearl Harbour and they had to sucker punch the US in order to get a jab in.  The real airwar was between Germany and the Allies.  But that's just my opinion.
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« Reply #27 on: April 23, 2007, 11:49:37 AM »
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Sooo,

We got for allies
two 51s
three 38's
Four variants of the F4u and P-47's
SEVEN Spitties
aaaaaaaaand a  paaaaartrige in a pear treeeeeeeeee!


For Axis
6 types of Bf 109
4 types of the Fw
and... um... 2?   ... yeah two A6M types
Two Bf110
and um... umm.... hmmm...



Well unlike the U.S. and some other particpants in WWII Britain had neither the resources (hence the wooden Mossie) or manpower to build umpteen different kind of aircraft.

So it made sense to adapt/modify/upgrade what they had.
Therefore you would expect a lot of different Spits to represent the 6 years wartime development (in fact we have no 1945 Spit).

To fully represent the development 3 more Spits and 1 Seafire is needed -
LF Vc - for scenarios and MW arena
XII - First Griffon Spit, highest scoring Spit sqn in 1943 flew XII's
F.21 - 1945 Spit
L III - Highest numbered produced Seafire of WWII.

Let me turn it on its head -
The largest planeset in the game belongs to a country who didn't enter the war until over a year after it started.
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« Reply #28 on: April 23, 2007, 11:55:25 AM »
Good points Kev totally agree!

Did you see my question about the Temp's ammo loadout.

It is widely believed that it could carry 200 Rpg as max capacity.

The Niki has an option to load more rounds and the Tempest could do with the same option.

Time to appreciate how UBER British planes really were  :t
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« Reply #29 on: April 23, 2007, 12:10:19 PM »
I didn't Bruv, and I don't know a lot about the Temp.

Yeah it's funny how the U.S. and German planesets are heavily biased to 44/45 yet the only two Spits are mid 44 (XVI is same as LF IXe).
We can't get a max boosted one, and we can't get a 1945 one.

To say 7 Spits (8 if you include the Seafire) is like saying we have something like 20 probably more U.S. fighters/jabos.

The only difference is Britain didn't have the resources to make different types of aircraft, so modified/upgraded what they had.

The Mossie was wooden because Geoffrey DeHavilland realised the only way it would get considered was if it didn't use raw materials destined for other purposes.

So I'll say yup we have 7 Spits, 3 Hurris, 1 Seafire, Tiff, and Temp, but we have over 20 U.S. fighters, which is more an apples to apples comparison.

To further show the absurdity -
The first P-47 missions weren't until April 43 yet we have FIVE or FOUR versions to represent 2 years.

By that yardstick we should have 10 or 12-13 Spits.
« Last Edit: April 23, 2007, 12:23:22 PM by Kev367th »
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