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Offline Kieren

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« Reply #45 on: May 16, 2000, 11:06:00 AM »
Hehe Karnak-

FWIW, I would love to see more Russian/Japanese/Italian bombers myself. It's just that for me the A20 is a plane that "fits" me better. It is good, but not too good. It has mult-role capability. It served many different nations. It was active the whole war. That is what I based my call on, I tried to keep the rest of the concerns out.

Yes, the Japanese selection is sure thin right now, as is Russian, Italian...  

Offline Vermillion

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« Reply #46 on: May 16, 2000, 12:16:00 PM »
Careful Sisu, someone might mistake you for me  

The Emily would be my second choice, just something stragely appealing to me in the Privateer.

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Offline Hangtime

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« Reply #47 on: May 16, 2000, 12:36:00 PM »
LOL..

All you guys wantin an He111.. u gonna fly it?? Mission: Punch tru defenders; attack and destroy the field acks; defend yourself; attack via strafing tracks and buildings; defend yourself; egress; defend yourself; return to base. Alive.

You wanna A26; or the He111?

Is this like the typhie???.. everybody wants one; but when they find out it don't do anything better than a cannon hawg; it's left in the hanger. It'll be the same with the He111; the current Martin B26 is a far better aircraft for the missions we fly than an He111. Gettin an He111; the kawasaki's or the TBF/SBD's will be great for scenarios.. won't play well at all in the main.

I'd rather see new A/C introduced that will play well in the main where we all fly most of the time... standards for survival in that enviornment are high. The A26 Invader is the right tool for the job.

When we get an HA, well then; spin out some neato early war crud like the He111 and Vindicators and Nakijima biplanes and Brewsters; P40's and Caudrons... but not now. We need A/C to finish fillin in the main!

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Offline Karnak

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« Reply #48 on: May 16, 2000, 01:04:00 PM »
Hangtime, the H8K2 "Emily" was reputed to be the toughest plane in the Pacific Theatre, on either side.  Of course, given how big planes can't absorb damage now, that might not mean anything.

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« Reply #49 on: May 16, 2000, 01:29:00 PM »
Very good translate Karnak  


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« Reply #50 on: May 16, 2000, 01:37:00 PM »
Put another Vote on for the...

A26

16 forward firing .50's!  WOOHOO!

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« Reply #51 on: May 16, 2000, 02:16:00 PM »
Couldn't say it better hang....no other plane comes close with regard to overall impact and versitility. only point you didn't mention is that the vader had a ratio of better than 1 to 1 in air combat vs enemy fighters. If you only had 1 bomber in a tactical ww2 enviornment...this is the one

Bring on the Vader

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Offline Karnak

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« Reply #52 on: May 16, 2000, 02:30:00 PM »
Thank you Staga.

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« Reply #53 on: May 16, 2000, 02:31:00 PM »
i vote for the
HE-177

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« Reply #54 on: May 16, 2000, 02:58:00 PM »
HE-177A-5 or A-7 with ability to launch the PC 1400 FX, Hs 293 or Hs 294 radio controlled glider bombs.  Now thats not asking for to much is it?

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« Reply #55 on: May 16, 2000, 03:30:00 PM »
Karnak.. that big flying boat is beautiful. I'm not entirely familiar with it's load out or aramament, Tho I suspect it would fall as easy prey to most of the late war stuff in the main arena.. hell; I'd probably try to attack it with an martin marauder.  

As for flying boats; nothing was prettier than the big Martins and Grummans Amphibs... legends of strength and range in their own right.  

Salute; Sir!!

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Offline Kieren

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« Reply #56 on: May 16, 2000, 03:50:00 PM »
How many 20mm guns did that Emily carry? I know at least one for the tail...

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« Reply #57 on: May 16, 2000, 04:47:00 PM »
Kawanishi H8K "Emily"

Defensive Armament:
20mm Type 99 Cannon mounted in bow, dorsal, and tail turrets, and two beam hatches
Type 92 7.7mm MG's in ventral, port, and starboard fuselage sides and cockpit hatches

Payload:
Two 800kg Torpedoes (1,764lbs each)
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8 250kg (551 lbs)bombs
or
16 60kg bombs or depth charges

Not bad in either respect for a Japanese Bomber, not bad at all.

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« Reply #58 on: May 16, 2000, 04:52:00 PM »
Vermillion, thanks for supplying that info.  I don't have access to it my self.

Hangtime, I've always been partial to the PBY Flying Catalinas.  Nice workhorses.

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« Reply #59 on: May 17, 2000, 07:07:00 AM »
Ok so you have a problem with german craftsmanship how about Br20?
And Hang, ever stop to consider that if folks would stop dragging in all that late war stuff that can even make a dweeb look good(no reference to you btw) and we had to use planes that were full of faults, in overcoming those faults we would really begin to seperate the wheat from the chaff
(I think i'm probably chaff, but I like high fiber)  

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