Author Topic: P40e 68fs/347fg (Read 3306 times)

Guppy35 · « **Reply #15 on:** February 06, 2008, 01:10:25 AM »

For what it's worth thats a Merlin engined F model, not an Allison engined E like AH has.

Bruv119 · « **Reply #16 on:** February 06, 2008, 04:14:42 AM »

Looks sweet Krusty!

Good job on getting her done.

Kazan_HB · « **Reply #17 on:** February 06, 2008, 05:01:10 AM »

Amazing skin Krusty!

Krusty · « **Reply #18 on:** February 06, 2008, 09:11:43 AM »

Dan,

I've got a few references that show 209 and 208, one or two says -E, one or two says -F.

It's close enough for me, but if you have any similar-looking references for a de-facto -E model, I'm willing to think about redoing it to those markings.

I've been scrounging references from the 'Net on this one. That may be why I've probably mixed a few of 'em. I think I need to go back and add eyes if I want to do 209 (too bad, IMO it looked better without 'em).

Krusty · « **Reply #19 on:** February 06, 2008, 11:18:50 AM »

HAH... I thought something was wrong! I forgot to include one of 'em. I even uploaded it at the same time.

Guppy35 · « **Reply #20 on:** February 06, 2008, 11:35:01 AM »

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Originally posted by Krusty
Dan,

I've got a few references that show 209 and 208, one or two says -E, one or two says -F.

It's close enough for me, but if you have any similar-looking references for a de-facto -E model, I'm willing to think about redoing it to those markings.

I've been scrounging references from the 'Net on this one. That may be why I've probably mixed a few of 'em. I think I need to go back and add eyes if I want to do 209 (too bad, IMO it looked better without 'em).

All you need to see is whether there is an intake on the top of the engine cowling or not. Merlin P40s don't have the intake on top. Allison engined birds do.

Krusty · « **Reply #21 on:** February 06, 2008, 01:14:26 PM »

Thanks! I never thought of that!

I have a profile for 208, then, that has the intake on top. Not a very good quality one, and it lacks the stripes on the tail... hrm..

I have to wait til I'm home and review the refs at my disposal, but thanks for the tip!

Krusty · « **Reply #22 on:** February 06, 2008, 07:57:36 PM »

Bah, stupid picturehangar

Those pics again.

I think I'm just going to skin the -F, as there aren't many references I can find about 68th FS -Es from this relative time frame.

oboe · « **Reply #23 on:** February 06, 2008, 08:35:40 PM »

Interesting scheme, I like it alot. Gonna look great when you add the dirt and weathering.

Regarding this pic below, is it possible to add a spray-painted edge between colors on upper and lower wings? It would add alot to the realism and authenticity; I don't think they taped that edge when painting on the OD green. Just a thought. I'll definitely be taking this ship for a spin when its ready.

Mus51 · « **Reply #24 on:** February 06, 2008, 10:04:27 PM »

Wow! I like those stripes on the wing, verry nice choice right there Krusty!
I'm waiting for screenshots when she's done before i can decide ofcourse

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But again the paint itself is a really good choice In my opinion. And as far as i love the P51 by its looks, the P40 has the #2 spot, especially in skins like these.

Krusty · « **Reply #25 on:** February 07, 2008, 12:21:34 AM »

Oboe, most likely is doable. Thanks for the suggestion (I'd have overlooked it)

Krusty · « **Reply #26 on:** February 21, 2008, 12:24:16 AM »

LARGE IMAGE ALERT

It turns out I can't do that Oboe. The skin stretches there, rather than wrapping (like I thought). It's all 1 pixel that stretches all around the leading edge, and you just can't get a nice feathered demarcation.

I tried!

Got some weathering done.

There are a few things I've cleaned up since taking these screens.

I need a good image of a P-40 data plate. I have a partial, but I need to retype it all.

Also, it doesn't seem there are many stencils/text markings on P-40s, eh? To me looks a little bare, but if that's the way they were I'll live with it!

Guppy35 · « **Reply #27 on:** February 21, 2008, 02:30:20 PM »

Krusty, have you checked to see if it's OK to skin a Merlin P40F on to the Allison P40E of Aces High?

That's definately a Merlin bird. BTW it's a 44th Fighter Squadron P40F being flown by pilot Kermit Tyler in January 1943

Krusty · « **Reply #28 on:** February 21, 2008, 02:38:33 PM »

CC Guppy, I knew it was merlin for a while now, but from my reading up on the matter there was little performance difference for pilots. It had different power curves, but overall similar performance.

Besides, I've seen a skin or two that are already in-game which are merlin-powered.

I figured I'd make the argument that it's a P-40F, very similar to an E but with a different engine, which had the same overall performance and capabilities as the E. I'm pretty sure HTC will accept it.

EDIT: I'm sure it was 68th FS. I have to check my files at home (at work right now) but there was some close connection between 68th FS and 44th FS.

Krusty · « **Reply #29 on:** February 21, 2008, 02:49:00 PM »

From 68Dougal:
"EDIT: After some further research, it seems that in Jan. 1943 the 44th FS 18th FG took over the P-40s of the 68th FS. I may have found a picture of the above aircraft, but taken after the 44th took over. It might be of some use."

There are a few photos of "208" and other planes after the 44th took possession. Here's another (listed as 44th)

Here's the same plane under 68th FS, Guadalcanal, Jan 1943.

(cropped from this: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v730/fugari/68thFSthumb.jpg )

This also shows it as a 68th FS bird:
http://wp.scn.ru/en/ww2/f/375/3/4

I did some checking to be sure about the squadron affiliation, because of the link between the two units. I'm sure it's 68th FS.

Do you by any chance have a clear reference to a P-40 dataplate? I've got the aft half of one in a photo, but I don't know what the rest says.