Author Topic: Flying and fighting the P-38 (Read 2156 times)

Guppy35 · « **Reply #30 on:** May 07, 2007, 01:14:19 PM »

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Originally posted by frosty
What can the G do that the J and L cannot?

Further, what can the J do that the L cannot? Only difference I can tell is the L has those dive brakes.

G is much more the turn fighter. I find I can hang with most anything in a slow turn fight.

L 'feels' the heaviest of the three in AH. J 'feels' like the best compromise between the G and L in that it's a decent turn fighter, but can also play the energy game well like the L. The G isn't the E fighter the others are.

I rarely fly the L, but haven't had a problem where I needed the dive brakes. If you fly the 38 enough you know how to keep it from compressing without the dive brake

JimBeam · « **Reply #31 on:** May 07, 2007, 01:21:23 PM »

P38s are actually very small targets if you use the right angles... the p38G is a great ride in my opinion ive been hooked on for few months

Guppy35 · « **Reply #32 on:** May 07, 2007, 01:36:02 PM »

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Originally posted by JimBeam
P38s are actually very small targets if you use the right angles... the p38G is a great ride in my opinion ive been hooked on for few months

One more added to the list of 38G converts

My quest to overthrow AH2 with the 38G continues!

Stang · « **Reply #33 on:** May 07, 2007, 01:38:13 PM »

Fester's new 38J skin has gotten me back into the flying deathtrap.

Engine · « **Reply #34 on:** May 07, 2007, 01:41:57 PM »

I love finding 38s in my Ki84, because it means I'm either going to have a laughably easy kill, or a teeth-clenching fight with an expert who knows how to use it. I LOVE Ki84 vs. P38 matchups.

Shifty · « **Reply #35 on:** May 07, 2007, 01:47:26 PM »

Guppy,

The amount of 38 parts laying around the arenas will be even greater as I decided the 38 is my bird of the month. I started the month out thinking I'd do the Seafire. However anytime I strap on a Supermarine, I get an instant brain fart.

I did the F6F last month and got pretty decent in it by the end of the tour. I'm hoping to lear a lot about the 38 this month. It's always been one of those planes I avoided. So if you need spare Lockheed, parts just follow my trail.

frosty · « **Reply #36 on:** May 07, 2007, 02:01:09 PM »

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Originally posted by Engine
I love finding 38s in my Ki84, because it means I'm either going to have a laughably easy kill, or a teeth-clenching fight with an expert who knows how to use it. I LOVE Ki84 vs. P38 matchups.

Oh bah humbug!!! The Ki-84 is just a Spitty without the stigma. There's no way you should lose to any 38 at co-alt/co-E unless the opponent is vastly superior.

Hoarach · « **Reply #37 on:** May 07, 2007, 02:02:05 PM »

Now where is my 38H....

Krusty · « **Reply #38 on:** May 07, 2007, 02:17:40 PM »

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Originally posted by frosty
Oh bah humbug!!! The Ki-84 is just a Spitty without the stigma. There's no way you should lose to any 38 at co-alt/co-E unless the opponent is vastly superior.

Not to change the topic from 38s to 84s, but I disagree. 38 vs 84 is a tough fight, as both planes have different strengths and weaknesses. Either one gets behind the other and it's hard to shake.

The Ki84 ain't no spit. Actually takes a bit of effort to fly properly.

frosty · « **Reply #39 on:** May 07, 2007, 02:56:10 PM »

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Originally posted by Krusty
Not to change the topic from 38s to 84s, but I disagree. 38 vs 84 is a tough fight, as both planes have different strengths and weaknesses. Either one gets behind the other and it's hard to shake.

The Ki84 ain't no spit. Actually takes a bit of effort to fly properly.

Every plane has "different strengths and weaknesses". However, some planes are, overall, clearly superior weapons than others...given equivalent pilot skill, obviously.

Given equal pilot skill/E/awareness, there's just no way a Ki should ever lose to a 38. I grant you that a 38 can be hard to shake once it's on your tale, but I don't see how that could happen in the first place to a Ki (once again, assuming the engagement starts on equal footing), unless the Ki pilot gets suckered by a cloverleaf turn.

Guppy35 · « **Reply #40 on:** May 07, 2007, 03:18:58 PM »

I love tangling with 84s in my 38G. 6-0 so far this tour.

That being said, I can always tell when i run into a guy who knows what he is doing in an 84. Thankfully that's not very often.

Engine · « **Reply #41 on:** May 07, 2007, 03:28:39 PM »

Frosty: I'd say the 84 is superior to the 38L, but it's a more even matchup against the G. Against either model, if you run into a pilot that knows how to use his flaps and when to be aggressive, you've got a great fight.

Edit: Disagree about the 84 = Spit comment. While you CAN fly the 84 like most people fly a Spit, being successful in the 84 requires a skillset that many Spit pilots never find a need to develop.

Engine · « **Reply #42 on:** May 07, 2007, 03:30:39 PM »

Say Dan, where are you flying nowadays? I'd love to have some more matchups if you feel like abusing me.

Guppy35 · « **Reply #43 on:** May 07, 2007, 03:31:55 PM »

Heck if I know where I fly. I forget what country most times

I tend to look low numbers country and fly against the high numbers bunch.

I think we were Rooks last night in Orange. I think I remember that

Engine · « **Reply #44 on:** May 07, 2007, 03:46:54 PM »

Hokey dokey, I'll track you down sometime.