Bf 109G-14 performance uprated?

[gripen]

Originally posted by Bruno

Which is roughly (3500 kg). This is the weight of a G-14 with gongolas:

652km/h at FTH Bf-109G14/U4 with Gondolawaffen (gondolas) weighing 3501 kg

These seem to be from the A/IV/141/44. There is a a note in the previous page (A/IV/140/44) which says that the compressibility effects ("Macheinfluss") are not accounted in the calculation and that causes 10km/h (or 15km/h, difficult to read because my copy is rather bad)  performance loss at 650km/h.

[Wmaker]

The weight in the HTC-webpages lists too high weight, but the weight is correct in the game itself.

[Krusty]

Gan the G-14 carry a bomb? Perhaps the "max weight" is with gondolas, 30mm, full fuel, and a 500kg bomb?

[Wmaker]

Originally posted by Krusty
Gan the G-14 carry a bomb? Perhaps the "max weight" is with gondolas, 30mm, full fuel, and a 500kg bomb?

Weight in the game with 20mm hub cannon, gondolas and 100% fuel: 7647lbs

Same configuration but 30mm cannon: 7760lbs

[Krusty]

Ah, well there ya go, I guess... 7700 as listed on main page includes max options without centerline being used, I guess.

[Wmaker]

Originally posted by Krusty
Ah, well there ya go, I guess... 7700 as listed on main page includes max options without centerline being used, I guess.

When I was referring to "too high" weight in the HTC-pages I mean it compared to other planes, 109s for example...their weight is listed in the default configuration.

[Krusty]

I'm sure they'd correct the webpage if you sent them an e-mail explaining it.

[Bruno]

These seem to be from the A/IV/141/44. There is a a note in the previous page (A/IV/140/44) which says that the compressibility effects ("Macheinfluss") are not accounted in the calculation and that causes 10km/h (or 15km/h, difficult to read because my copy is rather bad) performance loss at 650km/h.

I think you right - I will a look later when I get home...

[Denniss]

Originally posted by Krusty
Gan the G-14 carry a bomb? Perhaps the "max weight" is with gondolas, 30mm, full fuel, and a 500kg bomb?

Bf 109G (and all earlier, not sure about 109K) was only able to carry a 250 kg bomb on the centerline rack

[Xasthur]

Originally posted by Denniss
Bf 109G (and all earlier, not sure about 109K) was only able to carry a 250 kg bomb on the centerline rack

109K cannot carry bombs, only a DT

You are correct about the 250kg centre-line bomb on the G model. The G-14 definately can carry 250kg, I'm not sure about the others.

[Krusty]

Bah, stupid metric system! I was thinking 500lbs, in my head (how much a 250kg weighs).

Sorry, you're right! Doesn't matter much though, as that wasn't the issue with max weight, it seems.

[hitech]

Krusty: We announce all changes in the read me to flight models.

[Krusty]

Yes, I was kidding

[Squire]

I have to agree, the constant debates about +/- 5 mph are pointless and well within margins of error, modelling, and individual a/c in RL. It matters not at all really. You cant expect absolutes matched to every quote from every test flight, ect.

[Denniss]

Originally posted by Xasthur
109K cannot carry bombs, only a DT

You are correct about the 250kg centre-line bomb on the G model. The G-14 definately can carry 250kg, I'm not sure about the others.

For sure was the Bf 109K able to carry a 250 kg bomb with R1 (Rüstsatz 1) or four 50kg ones with R2.