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Offline wrag

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HR 1592 UnConstitutional?
« on: May 09, 2007, 05:25:01 PM »
Steps on many freedoms?

http://www.sierratimes.com/07/05/09/Paul.htm

will it pass and be signed into law?

“Criminalizing even the vilest hateful thoughts—as opposed to willful criminal acts—is inconsistent with a free society.” —Rep. Ron Paul
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It's been said we have three brains, one cobbled on top of the next. The stem is first, the reptilian brain; then the mammalian cerebellum; finally the over developed cerebral cortex.  They don't work together in awfully good harmony - hence ax murders, mobs, and socialism.

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« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2007, 05:45:58 PM »
Ron Paul seems to be the only one with a brain in Washington.
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« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2007, 05:47:13 PM »
Here you can find a copy of the bill already passed by the house. Rather than a particular politicians stance on the matter.
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« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2007, 08:53:12 AM »
The very idea that a crime is worse or that it should be punished more because of what the perpetrator thought of the victim is a huge step towards removing freedom of thought.  and... freedom in general.

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Re: HR 1592 UnConstitutional?
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2007, 09:17:31 AM »
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Steps on many freedoms?

http://www.sierratimes.com/07/05/09/Paul.htm

will it pass and be signed into law?

“Criminalizing even the vilest hateful thoughts—as opposed to willful criminal acts—is inconsistent with a free society.” —Rep. Ron Paul
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« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2007, 09:17:56 AM »
Disagree.  It's a huge step to inequality.  But giving one race more bonuses then another, or punish harder for crimes committed against, you are encouraging everyone to not be equal, or to not expect to be treated equally.
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« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2007, 09:51:48 AM »
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Disagree.  It's a huge step to inequality.  But giving one race more bonuses then another, or punish harder for crimes committed against, you are encouraging everyone to not be equal, or to not expect to be treated equally.
Disagree with the Bill... am I correct?

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« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2007, 10:09:46 AM »
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« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2007, 10:22:56 AM »
I disagreed with Lazs, you just happened to post right before me.
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« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2007, 03:00:04 PM »
lazer..you weren't disagreeing with me so far as I could tell... I don't know who you were talking about.. I said nothing about equality for you to disagree with.

I was talking about thought.   what I said is what I said.  

you remind me of the lefties who get all upset with other lefties who don't tow the party line.

You don't like my pragmatic way of dealing with the lack of individualism so you look for a way to attack me in every way you can.   You just look silly doing it but...you can't help yourself..

Just like the lefties... I make you more mad than the real enemy.   I won't jump on your martyr bandwagon so.... in your mind that makes me worse than the hated lefties...

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« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2007, 03:15:39 PM »
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lazer..you weren't disagreeing with me so far as I could tell... I don't know who you were talking about.. I said nothing about equality for you to disagree with.

I was talking about thought.   what I said is what I said.  

you remind me of the lefties who get all upset with other lefties who don't tow the party line.

You don't like my pragmatic way of dealing with the lack of individualism so you look for a way to attack me in every way you can.   You just look silly doing it but...you can't help yourself..

Just like the lefties... I make you more mad than the real enemy.   I won't jump on your martyr bandwagon so.... in your mind that makes me worse than the hated lefties...

lazs
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Glad I didn't try to say that better than Lazs.

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« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2007, 03:46:47 PM »
LOL... Laser is being accused of being leftist. My gawd this board has went to ****.
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« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2007, 05:37:32 PM »
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LOL... Laser is being accused of being leftist. My gawd this board has gone to ****.
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« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2007, 07:02:40 PM »
Heck yes it violates the constitution!

Good post, wrag.

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« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2007, 09:29:03 PM »
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Heck yes it violates the constitution!

Good post, wrag.

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So... when are the people going to tell the elected officials to stop missinterpreting the Constitution, and stop making up new ways to circumvent it?  For sure "We the People..." didn't intend for a bunch of greedy lawyers to...  

Oh hell, no sense beating a dead horse.  Those that know what's right here, will never be abel to convince those that want more gvernment ruining their lives.
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