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Can chickens fly?
« on: May 13, 2007, 09:29:49 AM »
can chickens fly?
 
Strange question, more of a pondering then a question.
Got into a strange conversation on this subject with one of the guys at work.
His position was flat out "chickens can't fly".
I disagree, now you may say, tho chickens can get airbourne and into a glide with a wing flapping motion,it's more of a hop from the legs combined with wing lift rather then a true act of flight.
I at first thought of this,but going by this statment the wright brothers first flight was not a flight at all but a glide down hill off a slight slope aided by an engine and prop.
If the wright brothers can be credited with the first controlled powered flight in this manner then I feel a chicken with the aid of some devise, oh say, a cannon, would have them soaring in flight like pro's!  Why as a former artillery man myself I can assure you that a frozen chicken with the assist of a 105mm howitzer (say charge 5) could achieve at least an alt of a couple thousand feet and a distence of several miles.  Now if that aint flyin, well I just don't know.
 I feel imho that chickens are underated natural aviators and should be given their proper respect as such.
 And darn tastie too!
Now I gaurentee you some dweeb's will argue with me,but gosh darn it the facts are the facts! And don't even bring up the airodynamic possibilitys of a penguin, it just isn't the same.

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« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2007, 09:38:58 AM »
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« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2007, 09:45:05 AM »
Chickans can fly
they just arent capable of sustained flight

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« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2007, 09:47:38 AM »
^ Mass goon drops suck :aok :D :lol

Haha. Are you still a Bish these days, Vans?

On topic, I believe that the penguin is a far superior animal.

When you show me a chicken doing this \/  ....I may reconsider.



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« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2007, 09:47:42 AM »
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Yankees suck :aok :D :lol


I didn't want to say this, but VANS IS A COMMIE!

There it had to be said.
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« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2007, 10:08:08 AM »
They Can Fly just not sustained...More like gliding...

I tested this out once when I was a kid...

I was around 9 years old and I threw one of my grandfather's chicken off the top of the house to see if it would fly...

It just Flapped and glided Down and ran like a biotch :lol
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Re: Can chickens fly?
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2007, 10:09:01 AM »
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can chickens fly?
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« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2007, 12:07:22 PM »
Yes, chickens can fly.  They don't do it often or for very far for a couple of reasons.

Chickens belong to a group of birds that are ground-oriented, and generally only fly to evade predators and to get into a safe roost.  Birds that are similar to chickens in this respect are pheasants, turkeys, quail, grouse, prairie chickens, and others.  

Birds that fit into this category generally have "white" muscle comprising the major flight muscles (white meat).  This type of muscle allows for a very explosive take-off, and rapid acceleration, but over only a fairly short duration.  A pheasant is a good example.  It explodes out of cover, accelerates rapidly away, but then will glide back into cover again in only a few hundred yards.  I can't find my written resource on this, but I believe it is due to the build up of lactic acid in the flight muscles.  This type of flight burns energy very rapidly, and exhausts the bird.  If re-flushed, the second flush is much weaker and the bird is much less likely to escape.

Birds of this type use camoflage as their primary defense, and flight is only a last resort.  They will also fly up into roosts at night to evade ground predators.  They primarily travel by walking or running.

Birds that fly greater distances rely on "dark" muscle comprising their flight muscles (dark meat).  An example here would be a duck or goose.  These birds use flight as their major means of locomotion.  They require a more time to gain the air, and accelerate slower.  However, the dark muscle allows them much greater endurance.  These birds may be airborn for hours at a time.

Another factor relating to the chicken is the "conditioning" of the bird.  Physically, these birds are obese and don't get any exercise.  We like this because their meat will be tender.  But compare a couch potato to an olympic runner, and ask yourself- "Is a couch potato capable of sustained running?"  The couch potato can run, sure, but it won't be pretty.  Can the couch potato be physically conditioned to run well?  Lack of use causes the flight muscles of the chicken to weaken.

Another "conditioning" factor related to the chicken is that it has been conditioned to no longer fear humans as a predator.  Organisms that want to eat you generally don't feed you first.  Humans do, but that is not normal predator/prey interaction.  Why would they fly to escape us, when we have the chicken feed?

Yes, they can fly.  They just don't need to, or want to.

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« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2007, 12:11:33 PM »
I guess I'll go outside and remind my chickens that they can't fly or do extended flight next time I see em doing there extended flights around our farm or going clear over the roof of our 2 story house.................:)

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« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2007, 12:14:09 PM »
From somewhere on the interenet I'd rather not say (but I heard it on the radio too):

The difference between white meat and dark meat is attributable to the amount of myoglobin in the muscles. Myoglobin is stored in muscles that get exercise, because they need more oxygen. The more exercise a muscle gets, the higher the concentration of myoglobin. Since a modern domesticated chicken is basically flightless, the breast and wings get very little if any activity, so the muscles develop very little myoglobin. Where this really becomes evident is in flying fowl like ducks; the meat is more of a reddish color all over, which is why ducks are basically all dark meat.

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« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2007, 12:25:04 PM »
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Originally posted by Xasthur
^ Mass goon drops suck :aok :D :lol

Haha. Are you still a Bish these days, Vans?

On topic, I believe that the penguin is a far superior animal.

When you show me a chicken doing this \/  ....I may reconsider.



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« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2007, 02:22:44 PM »
Brings to mind the Turkey Drop episode of WKRP in Cinci. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL   :rofl
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« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2007, 03:39:32 PM »
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Originally posted by mtnman
Yes, chickens can fly.  They don't do it often or for very far for a couple of reasons.

Chickens belong to a group of birds that are ground-oriented, and generally only fly to evade predators and to get into a safe roost.  Birds that are similar to chickens in this respect are pheasants, turkeys, quail, grouse, prairie chickens, and others.  

(...)  This type of muscle allows for a very explosive take-off, and rapid acceleration, but over only a fairly short duration.  
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« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2007, 03:58:41 PM »
Wow!
 Just goes to show there is much more to this whole chicken thing then I had given thought to.

I really never expected a logical factual explanation, tho I must say the answers receaved "well done".
 
but isn't anyone going to mention anything about my 105mm howitzer flight program for frozen chickens?

I mean common, i set it up somebody please slam dunk it.

I'm kinda disappointed.

I mean picture it, chicken, howitzer........Funny?

I'm sad now.....it was funny.....it was.....the penguin was too....as much as i hate to say it....it was....not as funny as a howitzer firing a frozen chicken, but funny....

ok,

maybe not that funny......but... i'll be back....with something funny....I will,....you'll see....

my wife said it was funny....my daughter too.....and they have no sence of humor.....

it was......"SNIFF".....funny............
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« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2007, 05:13:58 PM »
If you throw them.


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