Road blo- er, safety inspection

[Chairboy]

Originally posted by lasersailor184
From what I remember, it's legal if they stop every car.  Or if they RANDOMLY stop so many cars.  However, any evidence found during a random check can be thrown out if the doubt can be placed that the check wasn't perfectly random.

Incorrect,  You're confusing racial profiling with the fourth amendment .

[lasersailor184]

Originally posted by Chairboy
Incorrect,  You're confusing racial profiling with the fourth amendment .

I believe I'm not.  I'm remembering back when the NYPD wanted to randomly search people entering the subway.  The Supreme Court ruled that either all need to be searched, or a truly random search needs to be done.

I don't see why it doesn't apply to road blocks.

[Mickey1992]

Originally posted by Sandman
I  agree  with  Lazs.

Lazs would make a more convincing argument if he didn't insist on always throwing in abortion and gun control in his statement.

[Eagler]

Originally posted by rpm aka  
That is not a safety inspection, that is a roadblock. Police won't be happy till we return to this:

right....

[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by lazs2

I recall back in the 60's that they used to do "safety inspection" roadblocks in kalifornia but for some reason this practice has stopped.  

lazs

They still do them.   Had to go through a "safety inspection and sobriety checkpoint" the other night in L.A. near Korea Town.  


ack-ack

[ink]

Originally posted by lazs2


This is a real bad path to go down.   sorta like abortion and "good" gun control laws..

lazs




gun control is using both hands.

[Eagler]

Originally posted by Ack-Ack
They still do them.   Had to go through a "safety inspection and sobriety checkpoint" the other night in L.A. near Korea Town.  


ack-ack

we have them all the time here

I don't worry as I drive sober, don't have a bag of pot in my car and wear my seatbelt ..
how did you do?

[Chairboy]

After all, if you're not doing anything wrong, what have you got to hide, right Eagler?

[Eagler]

Originally posted by Chairboy
After all, if you're not doing anything wrong, what have you got to hide, right Eagler?

as far as traffic stops go - yes
unless you are a paranoid foil hatter like many seem to be these days

[lazs2]

But I am "doing something wrong"   I am probly not wearing my seatbelt like a good little socialist.   I don't feel it's any of your business if I do or don't.   I don't drink and I don't do drugs so probly ok on that one.


mickey... why would what I have to say be more or less correct if I brought abortion and gun control into it?   They are both perfect examples of so called "gray" areas that are not gray at all..

abortion is murder.. face it... how much of a murder?  who knows..   gun control is a violation of second amendment rights.. what about "shall not be infringed" is  a "gray area" to you?

roadblocks and searches are illegal in my opinion.   There are a million laws and therefore... a million reasons to have a roadblock... which ones are good enough to give up your rights over?   me not wearing a seatbelt?   Horror of horrors!!!  

lazs

[Shuffler]

How many "good Folks" were busted??



Granted it is a hassle and a pain in the tail feathers.... but where and how else do we protect our borders. Folks down here (Texas) are totally against illegals..... but the Feds do nothing. Why?? Because some group always cries foul.... so do we go through life like a bunch of nancies and let everyone share our freedom and the ability to stay off radar untill striking a blow to the US, or do we do as our forefathers and tell the complainers to toughen up and be a man.

I admit... we do have to lose a little freedom just for our preservation and I understand the concern over "how much". Staying the way we are now only allows those that wish to harm us a free hand to do so.

I see both sides clearly, but something has to be done....

Regards
Shuff

[john9001]

Originally posted by Shuffler
How many "good Folks" were busted??

there are no "good folks" all you civilians are law breakers, there just aren't enough cops and time to catch all of you.

but they will get you, protect an serve (the government).

[Shuffler]

Originally posted by john9001
there are no "good folks" all you civilians are law breakers, there just aren't enough cops and time to catch all of you.

but they will get you, protect an serve (the government).

LOL guess that is true. Most everyone has gone over the speed limit a time or two and was not caught... or crossed the street, jaywalking.

Same with those that serve, I know many Officers and they are all human too.

[Mickey1992]

Originally posted by lazs2
mickey... why would what I have to say be more or less correct if I brought abortion and gun control into it?   They are both perfect examples of so called "gray" areas that are not gray at all..

They are not gray areas in your opinion.

If you were to say "Exhibit A is true.", I might agree with you.

But if you say "Exhibit A is true, just like exhibit B is true.", even if I agree with you on exhibit A, if I disagree with you on Exhibit B, I am going to disagree with the entire statement.

[Halo]

(quote)

abortion is murder..

(unquote)

According to Webster's New World Dictionary:

MURDER  "1.  the unlawful and malicious or premeditated killing of one human being by another ..."  

KILL "1. to cause the death of; make die ..."

ABORT  "1.  a) to end a pregnancy prematurely ... "