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Offline SlapShot

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« Reply #60 on: May 18, 2007, 01:22:11 PM »
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Originally posted by storch
the spitfire is not what it once was way back when.  in the hands of a skilled player it is still a tough opponent though.


Well ... they neutered the Spit V (reduced boost and 1/2 the cannon load) ... but you are correct ... a skilled Spit pilot is bone fide killer and not to be taken lightly.

I love all the people that say it's an easy plane ... these are all the ones that fall into the Spit spider's web due to ignorance and then piss and moan when they get bit.

Those that call it a "dweeb" plane are only deflecting their own shortcomings and getting spanked by a better fighter, in the type of fight that they chose to get into ... turning.

Anyone who is a decent and aggressive E fighter, with some alt and/or E on the Spit, should be able to easily dispatch the Spit.

If you choose to E fight a Spit and dilly-dally around, and the Spit pilot is good, he will equalize your E and then send you to the tower.

The moniker of "dweeb" should not be attached to the plane, but rather to the pilot.

I see far more "dweeb"ier P-51s, 109s, and 190s than I do Spits ... at least when I run into a Spit ... I know the "fight" is on ... P-51s, 109s, and 190s, in most cases, the fight is on with them ... when your engaged ... with Spits.
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« Reply #61 on: May 18, 2007, 01:25:25 PM »
Yes, if you fly a Spitfire you are clearly lazy.

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« Reply #62 on: May 18, 2007, 01:25:46 PM »
Well, I guess somebody saw my post and recognized me because I got handily spanked last night in my Spit 14.  

And, of course, I totally blew all my ammo on a brilliant Yak pilot.  

One of the problems in flying the P-51 and then upping a Spit is not realizing just how quick that ammo is totally expended.
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« Reply #63 on: May 18, 2007, 01:31:25 PM »
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Well, I guess somebody saw my post and recognized me because I got handily spanked last night in my Spit 14.  

And, of course, I totally blew all my ammo on a brilliant Yak pilot.  

One of the problems in flying the P-51 and then upping a Spit is not realizing just how quick that ammo is totally expended.


For someone who has only been playing less than a Month, I'd suggest the Spit 16.   Learn ACM, how to lead your shooting solutions, and evasives.   It is a very tolerant plane.   As your skills increase, move to your P-51's, or P-47's.
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« Reply #64 on: May 18, 2007, 01:38:11 PM »
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Vanscrew, tell me, what spit out dives a pony because I've yet to run into one?
  I am equally suspicious about your claim that any spit could outdive an N.




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There isn't one. Fact is there isn't a  plane in the game that can out dive a P47 when flown correctly. Thing is most don't do it right. they don't trim the plane to 0Gs and fight the stick through the dive creating all kinds of drag.

Like all things in this game. "Fear the pilot not the plane!"

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« Reply #65 on: May 18, 2007, 01:40:30 PM »
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There isn't one. Fact is there isn't a  plane in the game that can out dive a P47 when flown correctly. Thing is most don't do it right. they don't trim the plane to 0Gs and fight the stick through the dive creating all kinds of drag.

Like all things in this game. "Fear the pilot not the plane!"


The Corsair would be the closest thing to it, but yeah, when trimmed right, the Jug dives best.
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« Reply #66 on: May 18, 2007, 01:49:54 PM »
First of all, spits are the most simple planes to shoot down.
The problem with spits is they turn to good "WUH!?" thats right, often times there turn rates will put them back into there targets cone of fire.

You can take just about any plane, hit your page up key,and pull back on the stick like your goin' outa style.
The head position will allow you to see better past your nose,will allow you to get that snap shot,and..you will still be able to see you prey twisting and runing.
I cannot STAND the guessing work when trying to get a deflection shot, so simply "stand" up and get a better view.

Most times spits and hurr's will pull right back into my gun cone and i just hammer down.


Simple.

Also there roll rates suck, if you can pull back on your stick apply a bit of rudder and a little bit of roll,you can useualy keep yourself moving in a direction even the spit will find hard to handle.
Anyhow, like most people think the plane is a tool, but the pilot any good pilot, can take a rock and fly it in the air with some form of success.

Also remember fuel weight drop tanks and ordiance effect how your plane will fly. If you heavy* you will have a much harder time.
The key is taking enough fuel to get in,drop your drop tanks's fight for 5-10 mins and get home.
If you plan on staying in a combat situation,remember the longer you do..the more fuel used and the better your plane will preform, of course that is if you can keep yourself alive and in a good situation.
All to many times people loose there 51's and 47 .ect because they are forcing combat on a plane using x2 the fuel/weight/drag everyone else is holding.

People diving there 262's with 100% fule, only to have the wings snap off, pulling 3 g's doin' 500 mph. dont get it.

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« Reply #67 on: May 18, 2007, 02:45:42 PM »
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spit's are the most dweebest aircraft in the game be sides the La7,every one fly's them for ez kills.It gets up to speed fast and turns great,they should perk it.it keeps up with a with almost anything.And it out dives a P51 or a P47.Now i know all the spit dweebs are going to call me a crybaby but i could care less.

American fighters are great fighters,and their great to get kills in people just dont know how to fly them.if you need help,let me know,im good in the 51 and geting better in the 47.


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perking the spitfire would be silly vanny, don't talk piffle :)

The spitfire is just a bloody good piece of british engineering and because it whips up most U.S. planes; people moan and groan. although if one were to be perked it should be the 16 NOT the 14.

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« Reply #69 on: May 18, 2007, 04:05:30 PM »
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How do you know the people that talk about the Spit16 in this thread have never flown the plane?
Don't assume.


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« Reply #70 on: May 18, 2007, 04:05:45 PM »
I don't think any plane really qualifies as "lazy".  The spit is a decent plane, and requires significant skill to master, as does any other.  The spit is a plane that will allow you to make a bunch of mistakes in, and still give you a smidgen of a chance to come out ok.  As you get better and make fewer mistakes you'll stand an even better chance.  It's a good "learner".  And if you like it, it makes a dandy plane for an experienced stick too.  Most people coming into AH have a notion of what a dogfight entails.  Generally that means TnB.  If they try that in a pony or P47 they die quick.  If they try that in a spit they MAY live a bit longer.

That said, it's not the best plane in the game.  It can be easily beat by anyone who knows how, and employs the right strategy for the situation.  As can any other plane.  Eventually it all comes down to the pilot.

Regardless of the plane you fly, it's gonna take at least a year in it to even approach "mastering" it.  

Personally, against my F4U the spit is pretty helpless.  They are too slow to get away, and too slow to keep me from dictating the fight.  They hold E so well that it makes it easy to get them fast and then all I need to do is dump some E to get behind them.  If I miss my shot I just need to extend out 2-3K to get my speed back and try again.  No need to rush, the spit can't get away.

The most dangerous spit is the one with the LA-7 wingman.

I can't believe some people think spits should be perked.

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« Reply #71 on: May 18, 2007, 06:36:06 PM »
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« Reply #72 on: May 18, 2007, 06:44:57 PM »
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« Reply #73 on: May 18, 2007, 06:46:35 PM »


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« Reply #74 on: May 18, 2007, 06:52:07 PM »
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