Author Topic: everyone loves the ww2online lack of 6 view (Read 4357 times)

Citabria · « **on:** June 17, 2001, 01:30:00 PM »

why is this crutch needed in...

nevermind

add this in to the pile of unrealism with inflight dar, Friend/Foe identification dar, sector bars, range icons, autopilot/trim on a/c not equiped and unrealistic head movement limitations.

AH... its a ww3 sim w 1940's aircraft

[ 06-17-2001: Message edited by: Citabria ]

Karnak · « **Reply #1 on:** June 17, 2001, 01:39:00 PM »

Actually, I feel that the WW2Online rear view is unrealisticly limited.

AH may be too generous, but I think it is closer to reality than the views offered in WW2Online.

Toad · « **Reply #2 on:** June 17, 2001, 01:41:00 PM »

Where does the

We're not happy until YOU'RE not happy!

club meet nowadays?

...oh, wait... I figured it out myself!

Gunslayer · « **Reply #3 on:** June 17, 2001, 02:13:00 PM »

Hey Cit take your WW2online flag and wave it somewhere else. One of the main thing i love about aces high is the view system. Most games are unrealistically limiting. Granted aces may give you a little too much in the six view, but its the closest to reality and the most intuitive view system ever made for any game.

Swoop · « **Reply #4 on:** June 17, 2001, 02:22:00 PM »

Um.....now come on, you gotta agree that the WW2OL view system TOTALLY SUCKS!

Snap views only? Gimme a break......specially how ya cant map views to the PoV hat on a PP2 in WW2OL yet......

Until they gimme a pan view I aint going over. Tell me what is even slightly realistic about the keyboard deciding where it wants me to look? *I* want direct control over where I look, pan view not bleedin snap.

The only thing wrong (well, not wrong but not as good as it could be) with the AH view system is that the speed of pan is not selectable by the pilot.

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GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #5 on:** June 17, 2001, 02:25:00 PM »

The WW2OL view setup is a bit limited. The problem is it doesn't recognize the pilot's ability to tilt his head and shoulders sideways and doesnt account for peripheral vision. The AH view setup is better in this regard but some of the customized view setups are extreme and the "linda blair" straight 6 view is simply not allowed by human anatomy. You simply cannot turn your eyes fully around 180 degress while sitting down in a chair. You do have decent peripheral vision of your 6oc if you tilt your head and shoulders but its not as good as what AH gives, plus there is no armour plate behind your head. All in all I belive the AH view setup is the best of all the sims ive played. But the 100% 180 degree 6 view and some of the more extreme customizable views could be looked over in the future.

Dowding · « **Reply #6 on:** June 17, 2001, 03:34:00 PM »

Toad - please go to the WW2OL official forum (www.playnet.com), particularly the 'Allies' sub-forum.

There you'll find a thread asking people to be 'named and shamed' for doing 'uncooperative acts'.

A thread about 'Official' directions for using the radio, which is... err... anything but official.

And you thought the 'Play the game my way!' crowd was bad over here!!

Toad · « **Reply #7 on:** June 17, 2001, 03:39:00 PM »

Dowding,

It's probably a bit premature to say so but it seems to me that a significant part of the AH "Play my way" crowd went there.

hazed- · « **Reply #8 on:** June 17, 2001, 04:12:00 PM »

gunslayer you are spot on about the veiw system

ive never seen better and how many games do you all try now, find in minutes you cant seem to see as well as AH, and as a result stop liking or playing it?
most of my sims got this treatment

BTW my veiw is the bickering about WW2ol posts is a bit childish.WW2ol is a similar product and will be discussed whether you like it or not.Seems very silly to try to ban its mention.
true maybe ask them to take it to the o club?
but dont tell legitimate customers of AH they arent allowed to discuss things of interest in bulletin board which is essentially 'all of ours' .

skernsk · « **Reply #9 on:** June 17, 2001, 09:00:00 PM »

I like the views as they are now.

rust · « **Reply #10 on:** June 17, 2001, 09:07:00 PM »

As we have a flat view screen, no peripheral vision, and no mirrors, I think the AH view system is a perfect compromise.
The stories always tell of the pilot checking his six by looking in the mirror.

Rust

The Free French Ait Force

FDisk · « **Reply #11 on:** June 17, 2001, 10:23:00 PM »

Has anyone been doing barrel rools and GAINED alt in wwiiol yet? geez.. I keep pulling and pulling and just raping 109s

Dead Man Flying · « **Reply #12 on:** June 17, 2001, 10:23:00 PM »

Take your head and turn it 90 degrees to the left of center. Then, turn your eyes as far left as they can go. Through the miracle known as peripheral vision, you actually can see behind you without literally turning your head all the way around Linda Blair-style.

Aces High (and WW2OL, and AW, etc etc)inhibit peripheral vision because each snap view represents a smaller range of degrees than we would ordinarily be capable of seeing. So instead of thinking that the six view literally represents a complete 180-degree head turn, see it instead as a partial head turn with eye movement and peripheral vision taken into account.

In that light, I'm incredibly frustrated with WW2OL's unrealistic restriction on checking six.

-- Todd/DMF

StSanta · « **Reply #13 on:** June 17, 2001, 11:17:00 PM »

I agre with DMF and others assesement

LtHans · « **Reply #14 on:** June 17, 2001, 11:46:00 PM »

I don't like the WW2 Online view 6 view. I only have a 4-way hat, and it doesn't have stick sets. I've gotten around it by having the Up views set to Spacebar+Hatswitch, but I don't like taking my hand off the throttle to do it.

That, and I have to have more keys mapped so I can look left back and right back.

Aces High might have the 6 view, but it is easier to use with less sophisticated joysticks.

Hans.