Author Topic: Ju-88 (Read 1208 times)

Mak333 · « **on:** May 22, 2007, 04:03:30 AM »

A few weeks ago I took up a Ju-88 to have "fun", with no real intention to complete an objective. I stumbled across a small airfield, took out 3 FH's and a VH in two passes.

Up until now I did not realize how effective the Ju-88 was. I upped a set of B17's and tried the same thing. It took two drops of 1000 lbs bombs (6000 lbs total) to take down one hanger. The B17 only holds 6000 per plane so I could only take out 3 FH's. I don't know why I wasn't able to knock down hangers in the B17 with only 3000 lbs. Is the B17 bomber formation spread too large, unlike the Ju-88? Is it because of the Pound to Kilogram ratio?

In any case, I found out that the Ju-88 is an excellent level bomber, but also versatile unlike other level bombers. It has the same clime rate as B17's, higher clime rate than lancasters or B24's and yet it's more effective than all.

If you are great a precision bomber and have overlooked the Ju-88, look again. This twin engine bomber may have a serious impact for you.

My two questions still stand though. Do smaller formation bombers have less of a formation span, creating a smaller spread of bombs? Or was I noticing the extra 100 pounds due to the kilogram to pound ratio when comparing it to B17's or B24's?

Larry · « **Reply #1 on:** May 22, 2007, 05:45:05 AM »

12x500lb Drop two sets one right before the hanger one right after takes them down everytime. The Ju88 is a great bomber when you dont fly into fighters B17 is better with its guns.

Jonny boy 8 · « **Reply #2 on:** May 22, 2007, 11:22:15 AM »

true, but i thought the ju88 was also a diver bomber?

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tedrbr · « **Reply #3 on:** May 22, 2007, 11:27:46 AM »

JU-88 was designed to be used as a dive bomber as well as level bomber. Germans designed most of their bombers with that intention.

JU-88 is a great bomb platform, just very defensively weak.

If you are an Arado fan and want bomber perks, or bomber jockey trying to improve your skill with damage points inflicted, the JU-88 is a good choice to run.

Mak333 · « **Reply #4 on:** May 22, 2007, 01:05:50 PM »

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Originally posted by Larry
12x500lb Drop two sets one right before the hanger one right after takes them down everytime. The Ju88 is a great bomber when you dont fly into fighters B17 is better with its guns.

I'll have to try this Larry. I am kind of skeptical about it since only 3,000 lbs are being dropped and they aren't exactly landing on the target... The bomb radius of a 500lbs bomb would seem to have much less effectiveness than a 1000lbs bomb. Thanks for the suggestion, I'll try this out.

I do like the Ju-88 though. Since it's ENY is 35, you get massive perks points for bombing.

Husky01 · « **Reply #5 on:** May 22, 2007, 01:23:49 PM »

3 x 500 = 1,500

1,500 x 3 = 4,500lb of ord on the target when using salvo of 3 500lbs from b24s or 17s

tedrbr · « **Reply #6 on:** May 22, 2007, 01:41:31 PM »

JU 88 carries bombs in:
500 kg (1,102 lbs)
250kg (551 lbs)
50 kg (110 lbs)

3 X 500kg = 1,500kg = 3,306 lbs --- that's salvo 1 from a flight of 3 JU-88's, and enough to drop 1 hangar if you are accurate.

The 50 kg's need to hit on target, as they have very limited blast radius. Need a lot of them for hangars, but only a few for each building or strat target you go after. They are also useful for hitting 'soft' hangars.

Best way for accuracy is to fly level, fly at a throttle setting that keeps the plane at consistent altitude. Most bombers flying level at full power still tend to gain altitude, which throws off your bomb site calibration. About 70-80% power in level flight on the run into the target is about right. Do it early to let the speed settle down. Do a long calibration when possible once you are on target and level. External view from the rear, or 'look up' from bomb site can help you line up on target before it is visible in bomb site itself. Use L and J keys for course corrections on bomb run.

Roscoroo · « **Reply #7 on:** May 22, 2007, 01:50:38 PM »

the ju-88 has a secret too .... (awaits the ussual bribe's)

Did you know it can be flown in Attack mode too . this adds the earned perks to your fighter perks instead of bomber perks (bomber mode).

I fly it quite alot and its best to have a wingy come with in a good fighter to help protect you . the Ju-88 can be a pretty good turner too once you lose the drones or fly with out them.

Lusche · « **Reply #8 on:** May 22, 2007, 01:50:38 PM »

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Originally posted by tedrbr

Best way for accuracy is to fly level, fly at a throttle setting that keeps the plane at consistent altitude. Most bombers flying level at full power still tend to gain altitude, which throws off your bomb site calibration.

There is a trick to counter that. A few seconds before drop, recalibrate altitude only by hitting U twice. No need to go through the whole calibration routine. Entering calibration mode and leaving it immedeately is sufficient.

Lusche · « **Reply #9 on:** May 22, 2007, 01:52:06 PM »

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Originally posted by Roscoroo
the ju-88 has a secret too .... (awaits the ussual bribe's)

Did you know it can be flown in Attack mode too . this adds the earned perks to your fighter perks instead of bomber perks (bomber mode).

Actually they DO add to bomber score even when flying in attack mode.

Most of my bomber perks do come from my "attack mode" il-2 sorties...

Krusty · « **Reply #10 on:** May 22, 2007, 01:52:38 PM »

For buildings or strat or whatever, you need to salvo 2 (bare minimum) to destroy anything. I've tested this out.

I was over a city strat and had the internal bombs. I was dive bombing, so no formation. I dropped 1x 50kg directly onto a target. Nothing. So I came back and dropped another on the same... nothing. You need to drop 2 together, because the blast radii reinforce each other.

P.S. salvo 1 with a 1000lb bomb kills hangars just fine in B17s. If you land them on target.

Krusty · « **Reply #11 on:** May 22, 2007, 01:53:40 PM »

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Originally posted by Lusche
Actually they DO add to bomber score even when flying in attack mode.

Most of my bomber perks do come from my "attack mode" il-2 sorties...

Yup! It rolls from the bomber hangar, all the perks go to bombers. The attack/bomber is only how the stats are recorded, not where the perkies go towards!

Brooke · « **Reply #12 on:** May 22, 2007, 03:53:09 PM »

Mak333, the upcoming special-event scenario Operation Husky is running in June. We have spots available for Ju 88 pilots in that one, and I'm expecting it to be a lot of fun. It's based on the 1943 invasion of Sicily. If you register for axis and put Ju 88's as your preference to fly, you will get a Ju 88 spot.

Here's info on the scenario with links to registration:

http://ahevents.org/pacific-theatre/current-or-next-scenario-2.html

For more information on scenarios in general, click on the link in my signature line.

Hope to see you in the skies over Sicily.

Masherbrum · « **Reply #13 on:** May 22, 2007, 04:17:40 PM »

Ablout 5 months ago I was always in a Ju-88. A few scattered Rooks were trying to take a base and I got there and dropped the VH, and 1 FH with the Main Ord. I still had the little bombs and some were saying over range, we may not get it because only 1 was vulching. I was able to vulch 6 kills with the salvo set to 1. We got the field and I landed with 14x3 of the little bombs.

The Ju-88 is a VERY EFFECTIVE bomber/dive bomber.

Krusty · « **Reply #14 on:** May 22, 2007, 04:28:48 PM »

You forgot "/vulcher"