ACM arena etiquette

[Bucky73]

Tommy, it is best to ask first. If I see a one on one going on I'll ask first and if they say they are ok I will hang around at a safe distance and tell the friendly if he needs help let me know. There is nothing more frustrating then working a con over and some tard (not to imply you are one) comes in and picks him off. The MA has way too many of these types of people. I commend you for asking about this situation though because it appears that you are trying to play with some dignity. People that say "if it's red, i shoot it" are the ones that are ruining this game. These are the people that should just go play solitaire or something.

However if you are in a "furball" area and there are mass cons around don't feel the need to ask. Anything goes in that situation IMO.

[Laurie]

do we have to know the full extent of the adventures occuring in your nose?

[tedrbr]

If you've got the alt advantage, stay up there, call over on VOX to ask if he needs help or wants you to make a pass to make the bad guy break.... and if not, keep an eye out for the next enemy con coming for a pick.  

If co-alt, again ask if he needs help.

If in a populated, but less than crowded furball sky, wing up.  Ask if he needs help.  Cover his six against the next enemy if you are not too worried about your own score, or move on to other enemies if you are more into the solo thing.


Personally, I don't have much problem if someone can get into a position to take a shot on one I'm following, especially if defending or attacking a field.  
For my part, I'll take a pilot's wing to watch his six vs another enemy when he is busy engaged with one.  I won't take the shot unless he shakes the friendly and does a lovely spread eagle silhouette 100 off my nose.  If there are two or more in a pursuit conga line, I'll break off and look for other prey unless I'm the lead and real close to a firing position.

In the end, listen to your own conscience.  I don't need name in lights or a low score to have fun in a game.  I also don't need to get worked up over some of the antics some pilots display in the game.  I don't find enjoyment in trying to game the game or stealing kills from others.  I don't get off in taunting over PM or Ch200.  

To each his own.  It's an online game.  You'll see all sorts.

[cleve]

Originally posted by tommygun
Last night I came upon a plane on the six of a bogey but not firing or getting in range. He was close though. I had alt and I knew I could get the speed to catch the bogey.
I dove and passed my country's plane and fired and I got hits on the bogey. My fellow countryman came on the radio and said "we are shooting at the same plane" I apologized and bugged out.
Did I do something wrong?

ACM etiquette....hmm is there such a thing in AHII??

I am one that usually likes to close within 400 before I kill them, I have had someone cut right in front of me right when I shoot, and my wing flies off or engine stutters out, and it was someone who was in the top 10 in rank. So I crash and don't say anything, I have seen 12 allies on one con....people shooting at burning cons to steal kills...but it is only a game and just roll with the punches. Just seems to be part of the game.

[BlauK]

If you have a kill, take it and enjoy it.  (I do not mean already disabled planes which are floating down)

There is a separate arena for 1vs1 duels

[SkyRock]

Originally posted by hammer
It's always polite to ask before you engage in an obvious 1 v 1 unless your countryman is obviously in trouble.

Regards,

Hammer

Yup!:aok

[Morpheus]

As a BK, kill stealing is embraced.

It is a cherished past time.

[Nilsen]

The only rule is that whatever you do or dont do, someone will whine for what you did or didnt do.

So do what gives you the best return on your monthly 15$ bill.

[Dichotomy]

Originally posted by tedrbr
If you've got the alt advantage, stay up there, call over on VOX to ask if he needs help or wants you to make a pass to make the bad guy break.... and if not, keep an eye out for the next enemy con coming for a pick.  

If co-alt, again ask if he needs help.

If in a populated, but less than crowded furball sky, wing up.  Ask if he needs help.  Cover his six against the next enemy if you are not too worried about your own score, or move on to other enemies if you are more into the solo thing.


Personally, I don't have much problem if someone can get into a position to take a shot on one I'm following, especially if defending or attacking a field.  
For my part, I'll take a pilot's wing to watch his six vs another enemy when he is busy engaged with one.  I won't take the shot unless he shakes the friendly and does a lovely spread eagle silhouette 100 off my nose.  If there are two or more in a pursuit conga line, I'll break off and look for other prey unless I'm the lead and real close to a firing position.

In the end, listen to your own conscience.  I don't need name in lights or a low score to have fun in a game.  I also don't need to get worked up over some of the antics some pilots display in the game.  I don't find enjoyment in trying to game the game or stealing kills from others.  I don't get off in taunting over PM or Ch200.  

To each his own.  It's an online game.  You'll see all sorts.

^

pretty much summed up my opinion tommy.  As you can see they are wide and varied.  

You have to find your own style and what you are comfortable with.

Good luck

[stickpig]

You have to ask yourself if its right or wrong. regardless of what replies you get here your gonna do what you believe is right.

But just think if you were twisting and turning with a con 1 on 1, fighting for the angle and you finally get him laid out and lined up and someone comes in screaming over your shoulder, guns blazing.....

How would you feel and what would you say?

[ridley1]

personally, if you've got the time to ask, do so....if not, kill the bugger and then both of you can move off to the next target.

How many times have I been in a great 1 vs. 1 then all of a sudden get a "Host:you have been killed"

Just do it.

I guess I owe a couple of buck to Nike for copyright now, eh?

[Sloehand]

Originally posted by stickpig
You have to ask yourself if its right or wrong. regardless of what replies you get here your gonna do what you believe is right.

But just think if you were twisting and turning with a con 1 on 1, fighting for the angle and you finally get him laid out and lined up and someone comes in screaming over your shoulder, guns blazing.....

How would you feel and what would you say?

I'd say,

"If kill-stealing is wrong... I don't wanna be right!  
Dam, I enjoyed stealing that kill from you more than most, Stick!  What a rush.  Let's do it again sometime."  

[storch]

Originally posted by dedalos
Actually, you just got a very valuable lesson on the mentality of the AH players.  As Hammer said, it is only proper to cherry pick when your country man is in troble.  Not when he thinks he will win fight.

In other words, everyone loves a 1 vs 1 when they have the upper hand or think they are winning.  10 seconds later you make get the call on radio to please come in and help lol.

I say, leave the 1 vs 1 alone no matter what the situation.

unless you are fairly certain that one of the participants is dedalot.  if in fact you can determine that one of the participants is dedalot then jump and kill it or jump and steal the kill.

what I typed now begs the question how can I be sure that it is indeed dedalot?

if he's on your side his icon will be tagged dedalot if he is on the other side zoom in on the cockpit you will see it eating bougatsa and there will be a long streamer of toilet paper flapping from under the hood and in the slipstream.  you know you have your tard, jump in and kill it.

[Ghosth]

Parting thoughts.

If so inclined, you can always dive in, make the bad guy break, and just not shoot your guns. Then when he does break zoom back up high & give the other guy a chance to finish him.  After all chances are he fought that enemy from 8k down to the deck, he's invested time, energy, ammo into seeing that bird die to his guns. He's "earned" the right to finish his all too rare one on one.

If after a couple of minutes the are still flopping around down there by all means go put someone out of their misery.

But for myself 9 out of 10 times if I go into a 1 0n 1 I never fire my guns. Ask the other guy if he needs help. Wait, see if the fight turns against him. If it looks like its about to, slash through and give the bad guy someone new to worry about.

Save your guns for if your countrymate loses.

[stickpig]

Originally posted by Sloehand
I'd say,

"If kill-stealing is wrong... I don't wanna be right!  
Dam, I enjoyed stealing that kill from you more than most, Stick!  What a rush.  Let's do it again sometime."  

Thats why I enjoy winging up with you Sloehand...