Does ENY make a difference? HaHa

[SlapShot]

Originally posted by Gulp
ENY is fine but it doesn't work as intended when 2 sides are ganging 1.  

The situation:

Rooks 150 players
Bish 100 players
KNights 100 PLayers

Bish and Knights (insert countries of choice) aren't fighting each other so it's actually 200 vs 150 but the country with 150 gets ENY limited.  In this scenario, ENY is actually making the situation it's supposed to fix even worse.

I fly high ENY planes most of the time so it's no biggie to me, but it seems like a crucial flaw in a feature that obviously took some time to design and implement.

It's near impossible to coad for "intent".

[BaldEagl]

Originally posted by SteveBailey
It's amazing that 200 people manage to coordinate in the MA and gang one side.  I've never seen this happen in my decade of flight simming.  

Hmm.. you've never seen one country being ganged by the two others?  I've seen it a lot.  Sure, there are 5-10 guys left on the third front but not like the hoards on the two ganged fronts.

I don't think it's a matter of coordination as much as opportunism (is that a word?).  Thought proccess probably goes like this:  "Hey, there's a big fight going on between Rooks and Bish and neither one's attacking us right now.  Bish are smaller so I'm going to attack them while they're distracted".  And the hoard follows.

[Simaril]

What's way more common is to see 2 high sides both attack the weaker cousin -- you know, path of least resistance!

But there has not ever been cross country coordinated attacks, where entire teams agree to truces. (THe only exception was when joint operations retook fighter town on the donut map.)

AHers are harder to herd than cats with ADD. Those generals who try are derided and ignored.

[SteveBailey]

Originally posted by BaldEagl
Hmm.. you've never seen one country being ganged by the two others?  I've seen it a lot.  Sure, there are 5-10 guys left on the third front but not like the hoards on the two ganged fronts.

I don't think it's a matter of coordination as much as opportunism (is that a word?).  Thought proccess probably goes like this:  "Hey, there's a big fight going on between Rooks and Bish and neither one's attacking us right now.  Bish are smaller so I'm going to attack them while they're distracted".  And the hoard follows.

Sorry.. don't believe it.  I hear the whines.. just last night actually.  As a knight some guy name AAolds "Bish and rooks have been ganging us all night"  I had just switched over from Bish because they weren't doing much on either front and were defensive  and there was a great little fight between nits and rooks.  The moment the Ltar's put a mission together to take P55 the above whine was heard.  Was funny because the nitsa had been rolling the bish up prior to that hehehe.

[Lusche]

Originally posted by SteveBailey
Sorry.. don't believe it.  I hear the whines.. just last night actually.  

It happens quite a lot. But unlike the whiners may believe, it's not "always hitting us". People just tend to note it only when being at the reciving end of such a temporary constellation (not unlike ENY ). Every country finds itself in a similar position now and then, depending on both coincidence and field distributions / map layouts.

But sure there is no "organisation" behind it.

[SteveBailey]

Yes, I'm more referring to those crybabies who infer, or blatantly  snivel,  that there is some sort of deliberation to a temporary lull in the fighting between the two "other" countries.  Certainly this debacle doesn't last "all day" or "all night" like I so often hear from the babies.

[BaDkaRmA158Th]

What i do not like, is the fact ENY counts not only for planes,but gv's gunners ship gun operators .ect

so if a side has 15 more people "all of whom are in gv's or some sort of ack" the other team has to take one on the chin.
Thats not right, then they take those 15 gv's and rush a field for a milk run,the people who DO up to defend it have to fly sub par fighter bombers.

HAVE YOU EVER TRYED TO DEFEND a BASE BEING REAMED BY 5+ LTARS in a p40E with ONE 500pound bomb!?


Horse crap i say.

[SlapShot]

I have seen 2 teams beat up on the weaker team trying to race to the reset ... but as an "organized unit" ... NEVER.

The "race to the reset" has been nullfied by the new capture rules anyways ... it's just that some dolts don't realize/understand it yet.

[Platano]

<<<< never has problems with ENY

[DaPup]

Originally posted by Simaril

AHers are harder to herd than cats with ADD. Those generals who try are derided and ignored.

As well they should be

[SlapShot]

Originally posted by BaDkaRmA158Th
What i do not like, is the fact ENY counts not only for planes,but gv's gunners ship gun operators .ect

so if a side has 15 more people "all of whom are in gv's or some sort of ack" the other team has to take one on the chin.
Thats not right, then they take those 15 gv's and rush a field for a milk run,the people who DO up to defend it have to fly sub par fighter bombers.

HAVE YOU EVER TRYED TO DEFEND a BASE BEING REAMED BY 5+ LTARS in a p40E with ONE 500pound bomb!?


Horse crap i say.

Well ... if you are down to only being able to use P-40Es then you really have quite a few more guys.

I would think that 15+ guys in P-40Es with 500lb bombs could easily handle 5+ LTARS.

Can't get that many guys together ? ... oh well ... can't blame ENY ... just poor organization.

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by SteveBailey
Yes, I'm more referring to those crybabies who infer, or blatantly  snivel,  that there is some sort of deliberation to a temporary lull in the fighting between the two "other" countries.  Certainly this debacle doesn't last "all day" or "all night" like I so often hear from the babies.

Agree, the ONLY "Truce" I know of was when I started the Knight/Rook truce with Lute & RacrX to get FT back on the Donut map.

[AAolds]

Originally posted by SteveBailey
Sorry.. don't believe it.  I hear the whines.. just last night actually.  As a knight some guy name AAolds "Bish and rooks have been ganging us all night"  I had just switched over from Bish because they weren't doing much on either front and were defensive  and there was a great little fight between nits and rooks.  The moment the Ltar's put a mission together to take P55 the above whine was heard.  Was funny because the nitsa had been rolling the bish up prior to that hehehe.

 

How long were you afk or sitting in the tower pickin your ***? I ask because you obviously missed about 2-3 hours of the knights being beaten into a corner by both sides and the map showed little to no activity between Bish and Rooks--some of us can actually read the map and see where the action is at or not at.  

Im not claiming it was coordinated, I never have, my comment was an observation, not an accusation.  I've read other posts from you and I know you dont like me.  Got a problem with me, take it up with me directly instead of being a wuss and draggin it into here.

[Gulp]

Of course its not all 200 in my example, but it's very common to be outnumbered in every sector that has action eventhough you have more players than either other country.

2 countries ganging one (no not organized, just happens that way) happens all the time.  In fact, I think I see it almost every night for a little while at least.  Then some days it's a marathon 2 vs 1.   Sure, even when its  obviously 2 vs 1 theres always a handful of guys fighting other countries.

[SlapShot]

Originally posted by Gulp
Of course its not all 200 in my example, but it's very common to be outnumbered in every sector that has action eventhough you have more players than either other country.

2 countries ganging one (no not organized, just happens that way) happens all the time.  In fact, I think I see it almost every night for a little while at least.  Then some days it's a marathon 2 vs 1.   Sure, even when its  obviously 2 vs 1 theres always a handful of guys fighting other countries.

That is the way of Aces High ... take the path of least resistance ... forego that challenge ... smash the weak ... get your name in lights ... yeeeehaaa !!!

Oh ... and don't forget the "Win the war perks" !!! ... dang, what we would do without those perkies ...  

It has always been this way, but it is much more prevalent now than what AH was in the past. There use to be squads that would hunt and battle each other ... now ... they race to opposite ends of the map and see who can collect as many defensless bases the quickest.