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Offline texasmom

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« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2007, 05:15:56 PM »
Terrible Terry Allen ~

*note the interesting story about a horse race here in Texas that he participated in (1922).  That army boy kicked the Texan's butt.  Wonderful little story there*

Completely colorful general = Patton couldn't stand him (that alone gives Allen reason to be admired).
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« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2007, 05:16:28 PM »
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I finally got around to reading "One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich" by Alexander Solzhenitsyn. Worth adding to the list.

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That was is a super one ~ I would have added it too:)
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« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2007, 05:21:59 PM »
Tom Clancy is a great author.

Space by James A. Michener is a great book. Wonderfull mix of real life events with fictional personalities that spans the space race starting at the end of WWII up to the moon landings. Was a New York Times best seller.
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« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2007, 05:42:46 PM »
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Tom Clancy is a great author.

Space by James A. Michener is a great book. Wonderfull mix of real life events with fictional personalities that spans the space race starting at the end of WWII up to the moon landings. Was a New York Times best seller.


Whoa... Tom Clancy is a hack.
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« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2007, 06:57:33 PM »
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Whoa... Tom Clancy is a hack.


OK those are fighting words. Tom Clancy is awsome. By far one of the best military/fiction/espionage writers in the last 20 years. Almost all of his books have been best sellers. He has a gift for mixing real world politics and technology into a fictional story with characters that are interesting and yet down to earth.

I can only surmise from your statement you've never actually read any of his work. You saw the movies though huh? Those sucked and didn't do the novels they were based on any justice at all.
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« Reply #20 on: May 30, 2007, 06:59:27 PM »
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OK those are fighting words. Tom Clancy is awsome. By far one of the best military/fiction/espionage writers in the last 20 years. Almost all of his books have been best sellers. He has a gift for mixing real world politics and technology into a fictional story with characters that are interesting and yet down to earth.

I can only surmise from your statement you've never actually read any of his work. You saw the movies though huh? Those sucked and didn't do the novels they were based on any justice at all.


The ONLY good Clancy books have to deal with John Clark as the main character.  All the rest are painful to read.
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« Reply #21 on: May 30, 2007, 07:15:07 PM »
AGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH You guys are killing me here. How can you not like Jack Ryan??? Granted John Clark is a total badass, but Ryan is as well in his own right. I will admit that The Cardinal of the Kremlin and The Sum of all Fears were a little hard to get into due to all the technical data required to really understand what was going on, but even then they were good books.

Here's anouther little factoid.
Clancy is one of only two authors to have sold two million copies on a first printing in the 1990s. (John Grisham is the other author.) Clancy's 1989 novel Clear and Present Danger sold 1,625,544 hardcover copies, making it the #1 bestselling novel of the 1980s.
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« Reply #22 on: May 30, 2007, 07:16:33 PM »
Alas Babylon and others... Oh hell, just read a variety of topics/subject matter that interests you.  Anything and everything from Blogs, to the Classics...

...as long as you gain some semblance of education, worldly information, historical perspectives you will be considered "well read"
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« Reply #23 on: May 30, 2007, 07:22:53 PM »
if you want to be well read, torture yourself through the classics and whatevers on the current book list for whoever...


if you want to actually enjoy reading,start by reading books in the same genre as whatever TV you enjoy...

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« Reply #24 on: May 30, 2007, 07:25:51 PM »
I'm a Steinbeck fan. A lot of his work is very approachable, and I feel a good place to start.

The Moon is Down
Cannery Row
Travels with Charlie in Search of America (Non-fiction)
Tortilla Flat

Where not to start:

The Grapes of Wrath
East of Eden

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« Reply #25 on: May 30, 2007, 07:29:47 PM »
Stephen King Gunslinger Series
Ann Rice Vampire Series
Douglas Adams Hitch Hikers Guide
Greg Cox does some wonderful Star Trek books
Timothy Zahn is great for his Star Wars stuff
Dan Brown wrote more than DaVinci Code


As for well read, I could care less, I read what I like.
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« Reply #26 on: May 30, 2007, 08:01:15 PM »
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AGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH You guys are killing me here. How can you not like Jack Ryan??? Granted John Clark is a total badass, but Ryan is as well in his own right. I will admit that The Cardinal of the Kremlin and The Sum of all Fears were a little hard to get into due to all the technical data required to really understand what was going on, but even then they were good books.

Here's anouther little factoid.
Clancy is one of only two authors to have sold two million copies on a first printing in the 1990s. (John Grisham is the other author.) Clancy's 1989 novel Clear and Present Danger sold 1,625,544 hardcover copies, making it the #1 bestselling novel of the 1980s.


It doesn't have to do with the quality of the main character.  I haven't figured out why, but there's a different style of writing between the two books.
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« Reply #27 on: May 30, 2007, 08:52:38 PM »
i've been reading for enjoyment for some time now. i've tore thru just about every hunter s thompson i could get my hands on. while i've not read michner's space, i have "the novel" been thru some Clancy redstorm rising, without remorse executive decision. clive cussler i like w.e.b. griffin i've read quite a bit of. the problem i feel i have in my literary choices is that some feel like "hollow" reads if that makes any sense.

let me put a bit of perspective into my wanting to expand. when people like dano for instance quote famous authors that i cant spell, i feel like i am missing on some bit of literary prosperity. does that make any sense?

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« Reply #28 on: May 30, 2007, 08:53:25 PM »
It's not history, but for good fun reading that is backed by "real" speculative science (newton's laws aren't broken) and military history, try some science fiction by Jerry Pournelle and/or Larry Niven.

Do a google search for the chief of staff reading list.  The USAF chief of staff publishes a reading list of various books each military member should read, for their professional development.  Some good stuff in there.  I think each service has a similiar program.

Another thing you can do is sign up for a night course in literature at the local community college.  That way you'll not only have access to someone who can recommend real literature, but you'll also have some help learning how to THINK about what you read.  That's important if you want to separate yourself from the mindless masses.

The Right Stuff is really good.

I thought Clancy got pretty corny after Red October, but The Hunt For Red October and Red Storm Rising were great IMHO.

I've read Atlas Shrugged a few times and I think it's a worthwhile read, but as others have said it can be challenging.  Also if you mention to most liberals that you read Ayn Rand and actually AGREE with even one word she wrote, you'll be immediately labelled a greedy, heartless, corporate shill even if the liberal has never read one single word she ever wrote.  Which is exactly what Ayn Rand talks about in her book (the mindless emotional reactionary responses spewed by many powerful liberals).  One way or another, your philosophy and outlook on life will be changed after reading Ayn Rand whether you agree with her or not.
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« Reply #29 on: May 30, 2007, 09:06:03 PM »
If it weren't for Herman Wouk I wouldn't be as big a reader as I am now.  

That being said I started off initially with biographies and it went from there.  Mostly history or historical fiction.  Can't get enough of it.
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