Author Topic: Duke (Read 2034 times)

TheBug · « **Reply #30 on:** June 01, 2007, 11:40:20 PM »

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Originally posted by Larry

Wow that sounds JUST like bug. All he does is try to piss people off trying to make them leave AvA. Calling them "trash that needs to be swept out." When in fact hes the one that needs to be "swept out".

Not people, it's just one person now. To keep the facts straight.

Larry · « **Reply #31 on:** June 01, 2007, 11:52:54 PM »

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Originally posted by TheBug
Not people, it's just one person now. To keep the facts straight.

One person? Get YOUR facts straight?

Grits · « **Reply #32 on:** June 02, 2007, 11:12:59 AM »

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Originally posted by Larry
Then why are you still here?

I have not canceled my account if that is what you mean. Just because I dont play every day, or for even months at a time does not mean I am unaware of how certain individuals behave.

For example, I know without playing in quite a while that Eagler will fight all night and not say much. I know Oldman will fight anybody and everybody and usually in the "worst" plane he can up. There are others of a negative nature that I could use but you get the idea.

Shifty · « **Reply #33 on:** June 02, 2007, 12:21:25 PM »

TK.

This started within 10 minutes of you logging in. To be exact it started within seconds of the first time you got shot down. You started complaining about ganging immediatly. The fact is everybody got ganged on both sides Thursday night. The nature of the fights were that sooner or later one side would be down to one or two pilots facing 5 or 6 because the rest were shot down and re-uping, or RTB. Everybody else on both sides understood and dealt with it without complaining. You had to start on 200 immediatly.

Each time you got shot down you had to make sure a complaint, excuse or insult, came across the buffer. Your own screenshot is evidence of this.

I didn't see one HO all night, I know a couple of P-38 pilots executed some very nice high angle shots on me, but they were not HO's. There were 1 or 2 fairly new guys in there, one didn't know enough about the aircraft to know the 190F was a jabo plane. A guy flying Allied was kind enough to point this out to him. That's the kind of stuff we need coming across 200, not the whining and complaining.

I have no doubt Duke would have squelched Bug as well, had Bug typed another barb in your direction. I wouldn't have blamed him for it , doesn't matter if Bugs a squad mate or not. You just had the missfortune of being so caught up in your diatribe you didn't see Dukes warning. That's your fault.

All this talk of how sheltered, or wimpy people are because they can't handle the 200 smack talk is just crap. There's nothing tough, or impressive about a loud mouth that taunts and insults from the safety of the internet. It's just a sad cry for attention, nothing more. People that detest this kind of behavior are not metrosexuals that get scared of you internet tough guys.

They're mature adults who more than likely have faced real conflict in their lives and see this for what it is. Candya** childish behavior.

Personally I don't care what you uber smack talkers say anymore. It has no affect on me other than the dissappointment of driving people out of my favorite arena.

However it seems there are prices to be paid for this kind of behavior. If your so tough and macho you have to do this. Be tough and macho enough to face the consiquences without starting yet another thread that makes the AVA look like a Leper Colony.

KONG1 · « **Reply #34 on:** June 02, 2007, 12:34:37 PM »

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Originally posted by Oldman731
In the meantime, the "rule of law" argument doesn't carry far with me.

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We're all old enough to know what constitutes bullying or taunting. Most of us are old enough to recognize that a competitive spirit doesn't require the yell-at-the-dark taunting to stay competitive - at least, I think that's so.

I agree with this, we seem to advocate different remedies.

There is the we need "judges", "high priests","arbiters of correctness", "deciders" which use their power to dole out justice.

I believe the "we" who are all "old enough to know" can each decide for ourselves. The .squelch will immediately and effectively relieve one of any unpleasantness. If everyone is in agreement, the provocateurs will find themselves in complete social isolation and their ability to annoy/bully/taunt neutered.

Recently, Imus stepped out of cultural bounds with his nappy headed ho comment. He suffered social justice and cultural punishment. The "government" did not punished him nor did it protect him from the cultural consequences.

Now back to thread.

TK is quite capable of dealing with assaults from TheBug and has every right to do so. If you think you have the right not to hear it, you are correct and you don't have to, just squelch. If Duke wants to play "referee" then he needs to send them both to the "penalty box" for fighting. Remember that this "referee" is also a player and has instigated his own little text buffer squabbles.

So lets just cut the crap, that was obviously a little power play on Dukes part.

TequilaChaser · « **Reply #35 on:** June 02, 2007, 12:50:10 PM »

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Originally posted by TequilaChaser

just let it go, nothing good to come of this

Larry · « **Reply #36 on:** June 02, 2007, 01:10:59 PM »

Ah yes my complaining. I was in a 1v1 after swiching because numbers were uneven. Great turn fight then the 880 "can only get a kill if its 5v1 guys came in-a-hording. I heard about 3 zooming engines before I died. After that I said "man this is ganna get old fast". Complaining no more like a comment but here comes bug with is smartass saying "dont like it leave". I then said "then who would you guys gang up on?", after one more of his smartass comments I told him Im not even ganna bother with him.

Next things I said on 200 were atlease 15mins later talking to Bolt. Then I was getting ganged AGAIN and trukjr poped my fuel, about 10secs later my engines cut out. So I go level so he can kill me, but he waits and gets about 150m away from my 6, about that time someone droped in on him and killed him. I said "LMAO" "that was funny truk" he then said "its funnier that you needed him to save youre butt", I then said I didnt need anyone" "i ran outa gas because of the fuel leak" "you took to long for the shot and he killed you" "the only reason you got on me is because I was busy with the other 6". I have that part films if you want to see. I did HO I think twice in that sortie, (but since I was out heavly outnumbered anyone will tell you its okay).

About 10mins later bug said "truesqueal HOin" "no way" after I killed trukjr again. It wasnt a HO I have that on film also if you want it. I said "huh?", he then said I know I know..... your ganna tell on me", d0ma said "comeon enough of this crap please", I then said "he will never let it go". Thats about where the films ends because I discoed. When I reloged I forgot I was recording and didnt start again. I remember nothing else happened untill a few sorties in, I come upon a enemy (forgot if it was 109 or 190). Like most 1v1s they start with a merge and then fight, Okllok (which is the bigest dweeb Iv ever seen in the AvA) waits untill we are about 300m apart and then gets a nice shot in. You know the rest.

Bottem line is as I said before muteing is for being really rude or cursing. NOT becuase the CM on is in a bad mode and doesnt want to untune from 200. Ch 1 used to always be enabled untill the CMs changed it. I dont know why they did but its not my fault you tune to it and cant handle whats being said. When someone is bickering on 200 in the MA what do you do? Eather squelch them or untune you dont report them (unless for the reasons Iv already listed). If duke cant handle the trash talk and is "fed up" or stressed out about it then mabey he should retire from being a CM, or squelch me and other he doesnt want to put up with when he enters an arena.

Shifty · « **Reply #37 on:** June 02, 2007, 01:21:10 PM »

TK,

Your calling people dweebs, and smarta** and just cooking off. You're mad at Duke and Bug , now you're attacking Okllok? He did nothing more than shoot you down.

It's really not that big of deal , it's been over for nearly 48 hours now. Let it go. There's nobody I know of who has never been played without being shot down. You seem to take getting shotdown as an insult. It's all part of the game. Take a deep breath and back away from the keyboard. It's not worth all this stuff.

Listen top TC......... Let it go man.

Larry · « **Reply #38 on:** June 02, 2007, 01:36:51 PM »

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Originally posted by Shifty
now you're attacking Okllok? He did nothing more than shoot you down.

You must have never seen him in the arena then. Would you like me to tell you what he does? When theres a good 1v1 he doesnt even ask if you need help he just zooms in and picks. ALOT! He milks when noone else is on (not that its bad but sometimes I catch him doing it to "out of play" countrys). A few weeks ago he asked why he couldnt sink a CV (another mid day milk running). If you get into a 1v1 with him he runs to ack. Hes what I call a "MAtard" bringing MA flying into the AvA.

Edit: WOW I didnt know you could say "ass" I thought I was one of those "badwords"

Edit again: What Im really POed about is you guys blame me and storch for our "trash talking" in the game and the forums, but you guys yet to notice that bug is worst then him and I combined. Only difference his he trys to be sly about it.

Grits · « **Reply #39 on:** June 02, 2007, 05:24:06 PM »

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Originally posted by Shifty
All this talk of how sheltered, or wimpy people are because they can't handle the 200 smack talk is just crap. There's nothing tough, or impressive about a loud mouth that taunts and insults from the safety of the internet. It's just a sad cry for attention, nothing more. People that detest this kind of behavior are not metrosexuals that get scared of you internet tough guys.

Read and understand this paragraph.

KONG1 · « **Reply #40 on:** June 02, 2007, 06:25:06 PM »

There's nothing you can do in the game that makes you a tough guy. You are not brave for flying into hordes, you are not mighty for being adept at a game. You are not heroic for sacrificing your virtual self to save virtual others. There is no pain or death. Big words don't make you a big man, tough words don't make you a tough guy. I absolutely, positively, whole hearted agree with all of that.

On the other hand ...

If you are upset by anonymous typing by tards on the internet you definitely, absolutely, undeniably have problems. It demonstrates an emotional and intellectual weakness which in all and complete fairness could be called weak minded or wimpy or whatever.

Now don't get me wrong ....

I'm a nice guy. When around weak and wimpy people I try very hard to be as nice and sweet as I can be, treating their fragile egos as gently as a new born kitten. This, of course, in no way changes the fact that they are weak and wimpy people.

Just sayin'...

KONG1 · « **Reply #41 on:** June 02, 2007, 06:49:52 PM »

And another thing.....

In all the proliferate pontificating in these preposterous postings I have yet to see anyone refute the penultimate perfect solution provided by the wisdom of the great and mighty HTC.

This solution has limited effectiveness when there are are hundreds of tards being tardlings all at the same time. But in the realm of the AvA where the numbers are limited it insures that no one ever has to read or hear from players they don't want to.

90% of this thread becomes absurd and preposterous in light of this perfect solution. If a tard types in a text buffer that does not display, does it make any sound? I say no.

Here, let me show you how it's done: / .squelch Grits

Problem-a-solved

Oldman731 · « **Reply #42 on:** June 02, 2007, 07:54:27 PM »

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Originally posted by KONG1
If a tard types in a text buffer that does not display, does it make any sound? I say no.

Here, let me show you how it's done: / .squelch Grits

Problem-a-solved

One of the nice things about the AvA - about all arenas, really - is that you can speak to the people on the other side. By default, people have adopted channel 200 to do this. Why not turn your solution around a bit: If someone wants to mouth off on the text buffer, could he not do it by personal message just as effectively as by posting on 200? Of course he could, but then no one else in the arena would see how clever he is.

Haven't really received a response to my question to TK. If we enable channel one - which is easy to do - so that people can talk to each other, would those who so jealously guard their right to be rude stay off channel one, and confine their verbal jousting to, say, channel 200? Your squelch would work fine then, they could be promptly bounced if they abused channel one, all would be sun and joy.

- oldman

Panzzer · « **Reply #43 on:** June 02, 2007, 07:55:08 PM »

(edit - this posted before I read Oldman's reply above)...

While it might not be mandatory to tune in to 200, we (AvA staff) would like to keep it civil. I might not have muted either Bug or TK for those lines above, but I don't see Duke being impartial or against TK... Just my view on it, opinions may vary. TheBug and Truekill, keep it down, we could use all the players we get in there, don't frighten anyone away, please.

Just let it go, nothing good to come of this

Grits · « **Reply #44 on:** June 02, 2007, 08:07:44 PM »

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Originally posted by KONG1
There's nothing you can do in the game that makes you a tough guy. You are not brave for flying into hordes, you are not mighty for being adept at a game. You are not heroic for sacrificing your virtual self to save virtual others. There is no pain or death. Big words don't make you a big man, tough words don't make you a tough guy. I absolutely, positively, whole hearted agree with all of that.

On the other hand ...

If you are upset by anonymous typing by tards on the internet you definitely, absolutely, undeniably have problems. It demonstrates an emotional and intellectual weakness which in all and complete fairness could be called weak minded or wimpy or whatever.

I dont disagree Kong, but I think you are coming at it from 180 degrees the wrong direction. If there were no intardnet bullies typing insults in the first place then there would be no reason for the "weak and wimpy" to get their feelings hurt. The "weak and wimpy" dont bother anybody, they dont throw insults, they dont browbeat other players, bullies do.

The bullies are the ones who should change their behavior, not the remaining majority of the player base.