back at cha stang I must have gotten disco'd. I'm humbled by the recognition of my impact on this community of miscreants and sociopaths. there's an old surfing term for people such as most of you posters. it was created for people who are all but useless and usually squeakers is what we would call them here but it goes beyond mere squeakerness. the term easily could be attached to players such as every BoP, skycrock, and Phawk. that term is gremmie. you guys are a bunch of gremmies. thanks for the chuckles some of the posts are funny stuff.