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Offline Benny Moore

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So which block of P-38J do we have, anyway?
« on: June 04, 2007, 11:34:04 AM »
The Game Info section of the Aces High II web page says that the P-38J has 300 gallons internal.  However, in the actual game, it has 420 gallons, according to the "E6B."  I know it's not a P-38J-25-LO, because it's missing the dive flaps and power ailerons.  So what is it?  If it has 420 gallons, then it must be a J-15 or J-20, right?

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« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2007, 01:04:20 PM »
Think the general consensus is that it's a J-15.
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« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2007, 01:37:07 PM »
What P-38J is the historic default skin?

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« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2007, 02:35:03 PM »
Irrelevant. Skins are not tailored to exact block numbers. In most cases skinners don't even know the details on the FM.

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« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2007, 03:54:26 PM »
I always thought J15. Flat windscreen, leading edge fuel tank, no dive flaps or leading-edge landing light.
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« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2007, 05:09:43 PM »
What's the difference between the J-15 and J-20?  I don't think Bodie's book says.

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« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2007, 05:46:09 PM »
Im sure its the J-15's, as they were the most produced variant of the P-38 J's with 1400 made.  Only 10 J-1's were made (No 55gal leading edge tank) and 210 J-5.  Both the J-1 and J-5 had the round forward windshield.  J-10 with 790 made had the flat windshields and the 55gal leading edge tank.  J-15 was the same as the J-10 with revised electrical system, and J-20 only had 350 made with revised turbo regulators.  Only 210 J-25's were made before moving onto the L models.  

So my best guess would be the J-15's.  There would also be no real differance between the J-15, J-10 or J-15's that you would see in a sim.  

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« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2007, 07:02:22 PM »
Thanks, Gibbage.  Where'd you find that?

Glad to see you here.  Did you get sick of IL-2 and decide to try out Aces High II, or are you just browsing the forums?

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« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2007, 07:06:38 PM »
What's this? Another 38 junkie? :)
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« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2007, 07:11:49 PM »
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Thanks, Gibbage.  Where'd you find that?

Glad to see you here.  Did you get sick of IL-2 and decide to try out Aces High II, or are you just browsing the forums?


Heh.  P-38 is my hobby.  I have a ton of books and web pages and I have spoken too over 5 P-38 WWII vet pilots and grilled them.  I know a LOT about the P-38 ;)  The details between the models is data gathered and posted on a web page I found.  Its the only detailed collection of varient changes I have found.  Not even Bodies book list's them.  

http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/p38_1.html

It starts out with the XP-38.  To go too the next varient, just change the web address from p38_1.html too p38_2.html and so on.  It goes all the way up too 20.  I wish I could find out who posted this info, buts its been around for years.  He also has alot of other aircraft, but I can find an index page.  

As for why im here, I have played AH a few times, and I generally like to explore the flight sim forums.  Its part of my job to see whats going on all over.  I was also a member of Air Warrior (beta team even), Fighter Ace, and Warbirds.  This is my 1st visit too the AH forums though.  Thanks for the welcome!

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« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2007, 07:15:18 PM »
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What's this? Another 38 junkie? :)


Understatement of a lifetime.  

I modeled the P-38 in IL2 and also have a P-38 model in FS/FSX at http://www.skyunlimited.net/p38.htm

I saw my topic of choice, investigated, and figured I could help out.  Im a big fan of both P-38 and flight sims.  Sadly, I must admit that I have not given the AH P-38 a fare shake, though I have heard a lot of positive things about it!

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« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2007, 07:16:35 PM »
Well I guess I'll have to add ya to the SAPP forum.  That's our "secret" place for the 38 junkies :)

Check down the boards if you get bored so to speak.  Maybe you can add to the book list there etc.

My collection of 38 stuff is about as big as i can make it without completely breaking the bank, although I tend to more focus on the units that flew them and not the actual details of the aircraft from model to model.

I'm partial to the early birds E,F, G, H, myself :)
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« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2007, 07:19:13 PM »
Joe baugher is the guy with the website btw.  He's a serial numbers junkie.

This is where you start for him.

http://home.att.net/~jbaugher/
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« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2007, 07:19:52 PM »
For me, its all about Lefty's White Lightnin.  Best of both worlds!  I also must say that the P-38 Swordfish has a very nice gondola section that I wish they put into production.  Much better visibility, and was said too reduce the onset of the tuck-under that all us P-38 pilots know and "love".  But lets not take this thread OT on my first venture into this forums. ;)

Thanks for the link!!!  For some reason, I could not find his home page or index!  It would just bump me too the ATT.net home page.  I really must admire his guys devotion too aircraft references.
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« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2007, 07:24:03 PM »
Yes, I know.  I was Aerial Target in the IL-2 community before I got fed up with the Stalinist trash.  I highly recommend giving the Aces High II P-38 a spin; even with just 60" Hg. MAP, she's still better than the travesty in IL-2 with 64".  And best of all, she stalls straight forward, just like the real thing!  If you decide to try it, be sure to visit my free eight-player server, Blue Sky: Maximum Realism.