Republican Debate

[Hap]

Why aren't the anti-Dems talking about the Repub debate?

[rpm]

Because it's a cluster****.

[bsdaddict]

Originally posted by Hap
Why aren't the anti-Dems talking about the Repub debate?

because they don't want to admit that the ONLY GOP candidate that they can support who won't consider a preemptive nuclear strike against Iran is my man,  Ron Paul.  

That or they're actually FOR a preemptive nuclear strike...

[john9001]

nukes are so last century, when you can put a cruise missile through a window from thousands of miles away you don't need nukes.

[Yeager]

A pre-emptive nuclear strike against Iranian nuclear facilities?

It is far better to say you would do it, and never need, to then to say you  never would do it, and then need to.  Its like this: If someone threatens me and I fear for my life, I will not wait for that person to attack me.  I will drop them as soon and as best I can, and they will not be kicking around after the fact.

Iran should not be allowed to go nuclear.

PS: I tend not to pay attention to debates this early in the process.  Too many heads talking at once.  I typically start paying attention when they get down to the top 4-5 candidates.

[storch]

Originally posted by rpm
Because it's a cluster****.

it certainly is.  there is absolutely no one whom I care to cast my vote for.

[bsdaddict]

Originally posted by storch
it certainly is.  there is absolutely no one whom I care to cast my vote for.

RP didn't score any points with you with his "Rights belong to individuals, not groups" answer?  I received a first-hand report from someone who was present that said the room exploded (figuratively, ofc...) when he said that.  Even those who were there who supported the other candidates reacted favorably...

[storch]

I want to like RP.  he is the only republican that I might consider voting for.  I am not so sure that his answers weren't merely calculated responses for the very point scoring you mention.


I'm not all together sure he could carry the nation.

[lazs2]

People are warming up to the mormon.   He is considered the big winner in the debates.

lazs

[Eagler]

Originally posted by storch
it certainly is.  there is absolutely no one whom I care to cast my vote for.

then you give the WH to the dems

I don't care who the reps pick, they get my vote over any dem running

the reason I do not care about the debates, is the fact the election is a year and a half away. anything could happen between now and then that would render the babble spoken today as irrelevant..

[Flatbar]

Originally posted by Eagler
then you give the WH to the dems

I don't care who the reps pick, they get my vote over any dem running

Fortunatley, there are many more dems than reps thinking this way for their party. Thanks to GWB, the reps will be trying to crawl out of the hole the chimp dug for them. The tone of the last debate shows that the rep contenders have gone from not really mentioning GWB in the last debate to openly slaming him in the latest one, must have been some sort of sudden realization that GWB's coattails are toxic.



the reason I do not care about the debates, is the fact the election is a year and a half away. anything could happen between now and then that would render the babble spoken today as irrelevant.. [/QUOTE]

On the contrary, getting out the policys and personalities of the contenders early gives the voters time to see the flipflops, bigots and religious zealots early on, it also gives time for these pols to change...um, refine their positions depending on how they do in the polls after the debate.

Now, don't let my blathering bother you guys on the right, although here in AH land you may be in the majority, out in the real world you guys are still among the 30%ers who still belive in GWB. The rest of us, the majority of the country that is, have awakened.

[Yeager]

I would rather write in Mickey Mouse than vote for a mormon.  No way Jose!  No mormanos!

[bsdaddict]

Originally posted by Eagler
then you give the WH to the dems

IMO, if the GOP voters don't select RP as their candidate they're giving the WH to the Dems.  RP has a better chance to beat the Dem candidate than any of those neo-cons.  Why?  Because first of all there's the people like you who'll vote for whatever Rep candidate is running.  That's a good chunk of votes, but not enough to beat Hillobama IMO.  However, if RP is the GOP candidate in the general election, he'll get the libertarian vote and many other independent votes.  He'll also suck some Dem votes away from Hillobama. (there IS such a thing as Dems who lean libertarian)  The Libertarian Party will probably endorse RP and not even bother running their own candidate, if he wins the GOP primary.  IMO, all that makes a recipe for a GOP win.

I don't care who the reps pick, they get my vote over any dem running

the reason I do not care about the debates, is the fact the election is a year and a half away. anything could happen between now and then that would render the babble spoken today as irrelevant..

these debates are more pertinant to the primaries than they are to the general election.  What GOP candidate will be up against Obama/Hillary in '08?  From the sound of it you don't care, you'll simply vote for whatever GOP candidate does make it to the general election.  That's all well and good and there's plenty more like you, but I for one won't be voting for RudyMittCain.  I'd rather throw my vote away on the Libertarian Party's candidate.

The primaries, by the way, start in approx 6 months.

[Eagler]

Originally posted by Flatbar
The rest of us, the majority of the country that is, have awakened.

If that's "awakened", guess I'll stay in my coma LOL

[CHECKERS]

Originally posted by Flatbar
Fortunatley, there are many more dems than reps thinking this way for their party. Thanks to GWB, the reps will be trying to crawl out of the hole the chimp dug for them. The tone of the last debate shows that the rep contenders have gone from not really mentioning GWB in the last debate to openly slaming him in the latest one, must have been some sort of sudden realization that GWB's coattails are toxic.

 I agree, GWBush is a flip-flop socialist ! , and He will sign this POS Amnesty Bill
into Law, as soon as possible, and then go on national TV and tell country "How good it is for the American People " ....





On the contrary, getting out the policys and personalities of the contenders early gives the voters time to see the flipflops, bigots and religious zealots early on, it also gives time for these pols to change...um, refine their positions depending on how they do in the polls after the debate.

   I also agree with you here too ,
Here is a quick   list of the flip-flop bastages that are hell bent on giving away our money/ social security trust fund and way of life .... and voted to do just that last night in the Senate ....

Subject: Senate voting
This is  how they voted.
 
SHOCKING SENATE VOTES
 
"The following senators voted against making English the official language of America :

Akaka (D-HI)
Bayh (D-IN)
Biden (D-DE)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Clinton (D-NY)
Dayton (D-MN)
Dodd (D-CT)
Domenici (R-NM)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Harkin (D-IA)
Inouye (D-HI)
Jeffords (I-VT)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Kohl (D-WI)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murray (D-WA)
Obama (D-IL)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Salazar (D-CO)
Sarbanes (D-MD)
Schumer (D-NY)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Wyden (D-OR)

Now, the following are the senators who voted to give illegal aliens Social Security benefits. They are grouped by home state. If a state is not listed, there was no voting representative.

Alaska : Stevens (R)
Arizona : McCain (R)
Arkansas : Lincoln (D) Pryor (D)
California : Boxer (D) Feinstein (D)
Colorado : Salazar (D)
Connecticut : Dodd (D) Lieberman (D)
Delaware : Biden (D) Carper (D)
Florida : Martinez (R)
Hawaii : Akaka (D) Inouye (D)
Illinois : Durbin (D) Obama (D)
Indiana: Bayh (D) Lugar (R)
Iowa: Harkin (D)
Kansas: Brownback (R)
Louisiana: Landrieu (D)
Maryland: Mikulski (D) Sarbanes (D)
Massachusetts: Kennedy (D) Kerry (D)
Montana: Baucus (D)
Nebraska: Hagel (R)
Nevada: Reid (D)
New Jersey: Lautenberg (D) Menendez (D)
New Mexico: Bingaman (D)
New York: Clinton (D) Schumer (D)
North Dakota : Dorgan (D)
Ohio : DeWine (R) Voinovich(R)
Oregon : Wyden (D)
Pennsylvania : Specter (R)
Rhode Island : Chafee (R) Reed (D)
South Carolina : Graham (R)
South Dakota : Johnson (D)
Vermont : Jeffords (I) Leahy (D)
Washington : Cantwell (D) Murray (D)
West Virginia : Rockefeller (D), by Not Voting
Wisconsin : Feingold (D) Kohl (D)

   
 



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