Take a look at this

[Dadano]

Ouch

[bustr]

Dano,

The dolphin harvest has been taking place for almost a 1000 years at that location in Japan. When I lived in Japan I ate whale. Very sweet tasting meat.

Even the most humane stock killing methods are shocking to witness unless you have grown up doing it or are a hunter. I think a similar dolphin or porpose harvest takes place at an island off the coast of scotland. It's been a tradition for the islanders for some hundreds of years.

To eat mammel meat, someone has to cut the animals throat and bleed it out. You only just now discovering it's a dirty cruel job??

[Dadano]

Anything that has sex for fun and can recognize itself in a mirror should be treated with a little more respect IMO. I've commercially fished and clubbed many a halibut and also witnessed cows getting it, but this just kinda struck a chord.

[Vulcan]

Originally posted by Dadano
Anything that has sex for fun and can recognize itself in a mirror should be treated with a little more respect IMO. I've commercially fished and clubbed many a halibut and also witnessed cows getting it, but this just kinda struck a chord.

Yet some people would find killing cows barbaric, get over it. Different cultures have different ways of seeing things.

[Dadano]

Originally posted by Vulcan
Yet some people would find killing cows barbaric, get over it. Different cultures have different ways of seeing things.

I disagree with it. You get over it.

[Meatwad]

Where do you think expensive tuna comes from?



Flipper brand Tuna - so good you will squeak with enjoyment

[storch]

Originally posted by Meatwad
Where do you think expensive tuna comes from?



Flipper brand Tuna - so good you will squeak with enjoyment

[Vulcan]

Originally posted by Dadano
I disagree with it. You get over it.

Over what?

[Dadano]

The fact that I disagree with it.

[Major Biggles]

man that's messed up. seeing a dolphin wriggling in pain while it's blood flows down the street.

[eagl]

I think Dadano has the essential point, and Vulcan is just being argumentative to try to make a point.  

I personally think that there is a huge difference in intellectual capacity between cows bred for meat and dolphins, and that means killing and eating cows is NOT the same as killing and eating dolphins (or any other more intelligent critter).  Plus, cows and most other food animals are managed and slaughtered in the most "humane" way possible while this method of harvesting dolphins doesn't seem to have any consideration for minimizing the suffering of the animal.  The way they're taking those dolphins is unnecessarily painful and cruel l in my opinion, and the fact that dolphins are most likely more intelligent than dogs (which we consider to be too intelligent to eat for food) makes this sort of thing open to questions of morality.

If they MUST be eaten due to lack of a less intelligent source of food, then I think it ought to be done in a less torturous fashion.  We are after all at the top of the food chain, and if a human NEEDS food then anything below us on the food chain is fair game.  But even slaughtering hogs where they bleed them out alive is done in what seems to be about 1/100th the time with significantly less pain and suffering.

I think one other thing that bugs people about this is that they don't NEED those dolphins to survive.  If they'd relax their trade restrictions on protein imports, they could get all the cheap beef and other meat they could possibly want.  Some of the arguments in favor of dolphin hunting like this sound a whole lot like the arguments that justify killing endangered elephants for their ivory...  It's all "we're humans so we're in charge, and you're a pansy for letting a little blood bother you".  Harumph...  Legit slaughtering to satisfy needs is just fine, but I think it ought to be done in as humane a fashion as possible.  Putting intelligent animals into a panic for hours followed by slowly suffocating them over another few hours just doesn't seem right to me.  We don't even do that to rapists and child molesters...

[CyranoAH]

[Futurama]
"Who wants dolphin?"

"But dolphins are intelligent!"

"Not this one. He blew all his money on instant lottery tickets."

...

"Pass the blowhole."

[/Futurama]

[lasersailor184]

Originally posted by eagl
I think Dadano has the essential point, and Vulcan is just being argumentative to try to make a point.  

I personally think that there is a huge difference in intellectual capacity between cows bred for meat and dolphins, and that means killing and eating cows is NOT the same as killing and eating dolphins (or any other more intelligent critter).  Plus, cows and most other food animals are managed and slaughtered in the most "humane" way possible while this method of harvesting dolphins doesn't seem to have any consideration for minimizing the suffering of the animal.  The way they're taking those dolphins is unnecessarily painful and cruel l in my opinion, and the fact that dolphins are most likely more intelligent than dogs (which we consider to be too intelligent to eat for food) makes this sort of thing open to questions of morality.

If they MUST be eaten due to lack of a less intelligent source of food, then I think it ought to be done in a less torturous fashion.  We are after all at the top of the food chain, and if a human NEEDS food then anything below us on the food chain is fair game.  But even slaughtering hogs where they bleed them out alive is done in what seems to be about 1/100th the time with significantly less pain and suffering.

I think one other thing that bugs people about this is that they don't NEED those dolphins to survive.  If they'd relax their trade restrictions on protein imports, they could get all the cheap beef and other meat they could possibly want.  Some of the arguments in favor of dolphin hunting like this sound a whole lot like the arguments that justify killing endangered elephants for their ivory...  It's all "we're humans so we're in charge, and you're a pansy for letting a little blood bother you".  Harumph...  Legit slaughtering to satisfy needs is just fine, but I think it ought to be done in as humane a fashion as possible.  Putting intelligent animals into a panic for hours followed by slowly suffocating them over another few hours just doesn't seem right to me.  We don't even do that to rapists and child molesters...

Dolphins are just biding their time.  There will be a time when they come for us, oh yes, there will be.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qiCcEkt43I

[Denholm]

If any of you fail to understand that every animal if being used as a food source or not, is food, then shame on you. Animals aren't here as entertainment, it's all a big food chain, us being at the top. We regulate how many animals roam in a certain area the same as frogs and spiders reduce the mosquito population.

We might as well get after Orca Whales for killing other whales for food. They dump all of their blood in the ocean as well, and they let the whales suffer in pain. If you're going to get after a human saying, "This is not humane!" Then please take a look at marine life. More likely marine life of the dolphin's size expects a painful death, even if it's longer than expected.

[john9001]

Originally posted by Denholm
it's all a big food chain, us being at the top.  

lions, tigers and bears might disagree with that statement.

also alligators, crocodiles and sharks.