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Offline Vulcan

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Disappointing night last night in the MA
« on: June 10, 2007, 06:12:32 PM »
First I was really disappointed to find a squad trying to capture bases by simple using kameikazi bomber formations at low altitude. What made it worse was the 52nd Kiwi guys are (supposedly) from my home country, it used to be once such gamey play was above this squad. Not anymore I guess.

Second I was extremely disappointed by a top ranked pilot who upon seeing my 190 with marginally more altitude than his ran in his P-51D immediately to the nearest Veh Base ack. Not only that, but he hugged the ack so tightly he blew all his E and altitude. But there were only two acks which I promptly disabled, and shortly afterwards killed him in a way that would only usually befit a total newbie death.

This guy was ranked in the top 250 overall, and the top 150 fighters. Yet obviously he was a skill-less dweeb (also noted he had ammo left as he tried to spray at me once just before he died). sktazman, it was just you and I there, are you that bad you cannot go 1 on 1 in a pony vs 190 fight? I'm no ace, I rank somewhere in the mid-2000's, so I find such behaviour sad, and I would be ashamed to act such a way myself.

to all those newbies that put up a decent fight. Shame on you gamey vets.

Offline evenhaim

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« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2007, 06:18:03 PM »
who was the pony pilot pm me so we can have a talk considering i know alot of guys who fit your discreption but do not match your story
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« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2007, 06:23:29 PM »
Rank means nothing except to people who pointlessly persue it.
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« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2007, 06:28:35 PM »
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who was the pony pilot pm me so we can have a talk considering i know alot of guys who fit your discreption but do not match your story


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Offline evenhaim

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« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2007, 06:37:03 PM »
cc ty shame on you tazman
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« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2007, 06:45:28 PM »
I've recently run into a vet that I used to have some respect for porking bases in the far corners of the maps.  This is a guy thats been in the top 10-20 overall in the past.  We've met in three different plane match-ups and, while he's decent he's nothing special.  I've won every encounter.

BTW, the guy you were talking about only seems willing to fight with a big alt advantage.  I've run into him a few times recently too.  Once I was in a Spit XVI, dove in on him from above and as I was closing he flew straight into a mountainside in his runstang.  I had a good laugh.
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Offline LTARsqrl

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« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2007, 07:13:22 PM »
Just a thought beyond a video game point of view, and I know score means squat, BUT, some pilots are successful because the don't just jump into a fight because there is another plane there, but rather weigh the situation and base the decision to fight or run on aspects that the opponent might not have.

I have no first hand knowledge of this fight, but it caught my attention because more and more I see people on 200 and on the forum crying that people ran from a fight.

I have, however, seen people crying on 200 channel to an enemy pilot that retreated from a fight.  "Ahh, ya wuss.  Run away.  What a wimp." etc, etc.  As the friendly he and his 5 buddies chase the single plane across the map.  DUH ! ! !  And I have seen a pilot with a 2000 (+/-) score dive into a fight where there were 3 or more planes and get his . . . . . rudder shot off.  Guess we know why he has such a low score.

If someone retreats from a fight, it is usually because he doesn't feel confident enough about the outcome to push the issue.  Gee, fighting smart.  Now there is a reason to rip on a guy.  Aircraft with a better position would be a good reason to opt out of that situation.

126 kills versus 49 deaths is in my opinion, not a "skill-less dweeb", but rather that comment from a 40 kills to 30 deaths pilot is.

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« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2007, 07:17:51 PM »
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126 kills versus 49 deaths is in my opinion, not a "skill-less dweeb", but rather that comment from a 40 kills to 30 deaths pilot is.



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« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2007, 07:29:20 PM »
If someone retreats from a fight, it is usually because he doesn't feel confident enough about the outcome to push the issue. Gee, fighting smart. Now there is a reason to rip on a guy. Aircraft with a better position would be a good reason to opt out of that situation.

Come on ... think about that ... what the heck does one have to lose trying to fight from a disadvantage ?

Next months rent/mortgage ?

Next weeks pay ?

Your first born ?

Really ... ya lose a pixelated life and in the total scheme of life ... it means absolutely NOTHING.

If I ran from every disadvantage ... in this game ... and in life ... I would be living under a rock with moss growing on my back.

Fighting from a disadvantage is how one learns and gets better ... if you can swallow your pixelated pride ... you will become a better player/fighter in this "game" ... which has no bearing on your REAL life.
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« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2007, 08:07:18 PM »
Humm, Slapshot, let me say again:

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Just a thought beyond a video game point of view

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some pilots are successful because the don't just jump into a fight because there is another plane

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If someone retreats from a fight, it is usually because he doesn't feel confident enough about the outcome to push the issue.

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126 kills versus 49 deaths is in my opinion, not a "skill-less dweeb", but rather that comment from a 40 kills to 30 deaths pilot is.


You said,
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if you can swallow your pixelated pride ... you will become a better player/fighter in this "game"
 Seems he has a good grip on it all ready.

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« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2007, 08:34:02 PM »
What's so wrong about running when you don't have the advantage? The bottom line is to get kills not be killed doing something stupid. Do you really think that the guys with the big fighter ranks jump into every engagement they see? They get the good kill to death ratios because they fly smart. Besides, its his 15 bucks a month to play the game anyway he chooses.
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« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2007, 08:38:11 PM »
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. . . its his 15 bucks a month to play the game anyway he chooses.
Sums it up nicely.
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« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2007, 08:47:05 PM »
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I have no first hand knowledge of this fight, but it caught my attention because more and more I see people on 200 and on the forum crying that people ran from a fight.


He had rudder, he had all his control surfaces (no visible damage + the from rate of turn over the VB it was obvious). He also had ammo as he did try to shoot at me. I was the only red guy in the area.

The only excuse he could throw into the ring was a marginal altitude difference.

LTARsqrl, if I were so worried about my K/D ratio in the MA perhaps I would spend more time on it. However, I have other priorities in life. MA is for practise, FSO and events for the real fun.

However, if you want to talk scores, lets look at some of my scores shall we?

Tour 12 Fighter, Kills 300, ratio 2:26, rank 52
Tour 25 Fighter, Kills 230, ratio 2:40  rank 3
Tour 28 Fighter, Kills 445, ratio 2.75  rank 62
Tour 32 Fighter, Kills 238, ratio 5.67  rank 68
Tour 36 Fighter, Kills 481, ratio 5.26  rank 93

get the idea ltarsqrl? Next time you want to call someone out on their score it pays to do some checking properly.

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« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2007, 08:49:45 PM »
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Besides, its his 15 bucks a month to play the game anyway he chooses.


Doesn't make any less shameful, nor something to be proud of. I'm not screaming at these people to stop doing it, merely pointing out how on earth can they hold their heads with any pride up in game? OK maybe they have no pride, that would explain a lot these days...

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« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2007, 08:54:09 PM »
I tell ya....some take this GAME way to seriously.

As for the rank and point thingy........Update from the who cares department.