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Offline Rolex

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upgrade yesterday...
« on: June 10, 2007, 09:41:05 PM »
I rebuilt my PC yesterday from this:

- Gigabyte mobo
- AMD 2800
- 1 Gig of RAM
- ATI X800 (256MB) AGP video card
- tired, old ATA 100 HDD.

to this:

- Asus P5B mobo
- Intel E6420
- 2 GB of DDR2 800
- Geforce 7800GS (256MB) PCI-e
- Seagate 320GB SATA HDD

I used the same case, PS, CD/DVD-RW and sound card.

Through the years, I've used Intel and AMD, a variety of chipsets, mobos and video cards. I decided to try Nvidia this time just for a change. I don't play other games, so AH is my only gaming reference. I was getting about 40-50 fps and much less with stutters and some heavy disk-paging in heavy traffic with this:

WinXP Home, 1280x1024 @ 75Mhz, 2x AA, 512 textures, skins disabled and using FSAutostart. I was starting to get enough heat to barbeque ribs on my box. :D

I have to say that this upgrade had the greatest overall improvement I've ever had over the years.

First, the Asus board and BIOS was straightfoward, as was the CPU and fan installation. I only wish the Asus manual had a little larger print for my old eyes. Deciding and copying which stuff I wanted to carry over was the hardest part of this whole upgrade. I saved my AH settings folder and downloaded the latest Nvidia driver. Everything sprang to life first time. The only BIOS changes I made were to disable the Parallel Port to free up an IRQ, since I'm not a printer-kind of guy, changed my boot sequence and disable the onboard sound. Easy peasey.

Fingers crossed, WinXP SP1 home (retail) installed in a flash. It seemed like less than 10 minutes instead of the usual 45+ minutes. That was an indication of how much faster things were going to be for me...

Installed the mobo, video and sound drivers, then disabled Windows Messenger and set security setting on IE before connecting to my router to start the dreaded Windows patching routine. I disabled all ActiveX and scripting and added *.microsoft.com to the trusted sites zone. Installed Firefox and Thunderbird email client, since I set Windows Update as start page in IE and will only use it for updating.

I had to get a new number from MS to activate, but it was painless and easily done over the phone. They even provided a toll-free number here in Japan and it was an automated process that I did on Saturday night at about midnight.

First surprise came when I could not use Windows Update. No matter what your security settings and domains for the trusted zone, you can't use Windows Update to update from SP1 anymore. I turned on Automated updates and went to bed. The next morning, a billion updates were ready to be installed, including SP2. Everything went smoothly after that and a scan confirmed that my router firewall works great. :-)

Turned off Windows Firewall and automated updates, installed AH and downloaded and installed hires textures, FSAutostart and a few other apps I use. Setup FSAutostart and launched AH. 1024 texture size was already set, enabled all graphic goodies and let it load up. Closed it down after finishing and deleted video8 file from my saved settings folder and copied folder over to AHII folder.

The result?

First, the latest Nvidia control panel seems to have a little glitch, you have to set AA to off before you can set it to another value. Also, vert sync seems to be set by default now, which is good. I set up AA to 8x and I'm getting a solid 75 fps (monitor refresh) in all conditions using hires textures and no stuttering, ever. I have graphic sliders set to max using 1280 x 1024 resolution.

To me, Nvidia cards seem to display a little darker than ATI. Easily solved with a small boost in gamma, and ATI seems to have a softer feel to lighting effects. Clouds seem to render differently. Not bad, just different and very nice.

Everything is running very cool. Even trying to stress the system. I can't get the processor to go above 50C and the mobo temperature is <40C. My power supply is 450 watts and it is more than enough to handle this system. I would attribute it to the reduced power demand by the processor. I'm not overclocking anything and can't see any need to.

Aces High looks and performs great. Look at the lighting on the clock, compass and airspeed indicator on the overhead panel in this screenshot.




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This was a cheap upgrade for so much value.

Offline Bad31st

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Re: upgrade yesterday...
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2007, 09:50:53 PM »
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I had to get a new number from MS to activate, but it was painless and easily done over the phone.  


Was this because you had lost the old one or because you had that key installed on a different machine?

The reason I ask is that I'll be doing the same thing shortly, although I'll be installing linux on my old machine, and don't want to buy XP Pro again...Seeing how that key won't be used anymore I cant see that installing it on a different machine would be against the EULA...

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« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2007, 10:03:25 PM »
This was my 3rd install of WinXP using the same key. I simply pressed the button  that it was being reinstalled on the same machine and was given a new number immediately by automation. I don't know if it is the same system in all locations.

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« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2007, 01:13:18 AM »
Rolex & Bad31st,

here is a website someone sent me a long while ago, that offers  some type of Auto Patch updater for most OS's...........

might want to check it out......and any others out there also going thru reformatting/reloading  your OS

http://www.autopatcher.com/

highspeed download mirror site here:  http://www.getautopatcher.com/

read up on all the tutorials, FAQs, maybe even the forums....before you decide to DL & install.......I have heard no one have any bad issues though using this....
"When one considers just what they should say to a new pilot who is logging in Aces High, the mind becomes confused in the complex maze of info it is necessary for the new player to know. All of it is important; most of it vital; and all of it just too much for one brain to absorb in 1-2 lessons" TC

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« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2007, 11:04:15 AM »
Autopatcher works rather well. I've been using it for a couple of years now and never visit microsloth for updates anymore.

Just, so ya know, I have found a few glitches in Autopatcher. These were mostly in the 'windows addons' and 'registry Tweaks' sections.

I found that sometimes, when you let autopatcher install 'tweakui', the program installs, but then has problems. This happened more then a couple of times and with different systems. Because of this I only update the critical and reccommended updates. Any addons, I might want, I update separately.

Other then that, Autopatcher does a great job of keeping my system updated with all the latest updates, without haveing to allow microsloth into my system, (read the eula for windows updates for further info).

I highly reccommend Autopatcher.

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« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2007, 01:13:53 PM »
yep wabbit, I used it on my mom's pc from across states....she kust got the newest version which is by far more streamlined........and has a most excelent user interface verses the old versions & patches......

love talking Mom thru a program install/setup over the phone.............everyone should experience something similar to this at least once in their lifetimes......ROFL.
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« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2007, 04:09:11 PM »
Nice write up Rolex .

Did you run Ad-aware afterwards to clean up  the unwanteds ?? or something similar .
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« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2007, 05:37:23 PM »
I'll keep that updater site in mind for next time. Ran a scan and everything is clean as a whistle, roscoroo.

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Re: upgrade yesterday...
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2007, 12:38:04 PM »
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First surprise came when I could not use Windows Update. No matter what your security settings and domains for the trusted zone, you can't use Windows Update to update from SP1 anymore.


You can, but it uses ActiveX (which you disabled).

I did it not *that* long ago (say, oh, 4-5 months?)

I don't use autoupdate, I only use windows update and I've only had problems when I set a setting to something that disabled winupdate.

Other than that, good write-up!

P.S. You shouldn't overheat. Don't worry. Conroes are very cool-running!

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« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2007, 07:36:08 PM »
I disabled ActiveX and scripting for the Internet Zone only, Krusty. In Trusted Zone, ActiveX was enabled. I wildcarded subdomains of Microsoft, plus all the domains listed by Windows Update in the failure notice, but it still didn't work.

Perhaps the ActiveX version of IE build I started with is incompatible.

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« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2007, 11:31:13 AM »
Hrm... it should work... I can't think of a reason it wouldn't. Well, luckily you had auto update!!