Colin Powell Joins AlQueda

[L'EMMERDEUR]

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Compassionate Conservatism

[Chairboy]

Bodhi, for the actual fighters, sure, that makes sense.  But _some_ of the people being detained have been found innocent, and there could be more.  We were paying Pakistanis and Afghans for people they delivered that they said were terrorists, and that word was the only evidence.

You're not advocating that the innocents should also be killed, are you?  Because that'd be the most likely side effect to a "just shoot them all" policy.

[Yeager]

To the rest of the planet it just looks 1939 all over again.
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what a deceitful thing to say.  Get OFF my obstacle Private Pyle!

[Maverick]

Inaccurate but provocative heading to the thread. Nice troll RPM, particularly since you have had no additional input into it. It could have had some decent discussion had you not poisoned the well so badly. Why did you see fit to shut so many doors to it?

[Bodhi]

Originally posted by L'EMMERDEUR
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Compassionate Conservatism

Nope, there is not one compassionate bone in my body when it comes to terrorists and terrorism in general.  But that comment coming from a shades is about what I expected.

[rpm]

Originally posted by Maverick
Inaccurate but provocative heading to the thread. Nice troll RPM, particularly since you have had no additional input into it. It could have had some decent discussion had you not poisoned the well so badly. Why did you see fit to shut so many doors to it?

I simply state things as I see them Mav. In this case, no crystal ball was nessessary.

Gitmo is a recruiting tool for terrorists. Gitmo is ruining our reputation of being the good guys. Colin Powell sees it, why can't you? Could it be because he actually knows what he's talking about?

[Maverick]

Once again you allow your own perceptions and perhaps prejudice to put words in my mouth that I neither expressed, implied or inferred. That was not what I was saying at all. Please quote my post that indicated I was in favor of Gitmo or made a judgement, pro or con, of it.

If you want to state your position, that's fine but please do not presume to express ideas that you think are mine.

[x0847Marine]

Originally posted by Bodhi
Nope, there is not one compassionate bone in my body when it comes to terrorists and terrorism in general.  But that comment coming from a shades is about what I expected.

Which definition of "terrorist" do you go by?

Dead innocent Americans are still dead no matter what lame opinion the killer(s) had before doing it. But boiling it down to one ambiguous word makes a better bumper sticker, and since in sounds ominous.. it's easy to rally around.

Collin Powells opinion, as informed as it may be, is just another one to kick around on cable news... nobody that matters is listening.

Our so called political leaders have proven themselves as party motivated incompetent clones, I don't trust king geroge deciding who gets a bullet to the head, and who doesn't... that's what the courts are for.

[lasersailor184]

Originally posted by rpm
At least that's what I expect to hear from the Bushboiz. The former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Secretary of State and possibly the most respected (well at least he was before Bush made him dance like a monkey at the UN) unofficial voice of The United States of America says it's time to close Gitmo, "it's causing us far more damage than any good we get from it".

Oh the terrorist lovin', Amerihating horror...
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^This man knows his ****. Pay attention.

The problem here is that democrats believe that someone of position, is inherently free from bias.

RPM is trying to play that card, and most people here are falling for it, or arguing against Powell's credibility.



However, don't forget that Colin Powell is a democrat.

[Eagler]

I thought the thread was going to be about him giving advice to his bro obama LOL

[Chairboy]

Originally posted by lasersailor184
However, don't forget that Colin Powell is a democrat.

Nope.  Republican.

[Red Tail 444]

Originally posted by lasersailor184
However, don't forget that Colin Powell is a democrat.

[john9001]

Originally posted by L'EMMERDEUR
Maybe among the thirty-percenters.  To the rest of the planet it just looks 1939 all over again.

and Powell is playing the part of Chamberlain?  peace in our time?


i don't want to be "the good guys", i want to be the guys that win.

[Chairboy]

I enjoy the fact that Lasersailor doesn't let something like credibility get in the way of a post, that's a brave stance to take in this world of ours that puts an inordinate amount of emphasis on the facts and accuracy.

[Bodhi]

Originally posted by Chairboy
Bodhi, for the actual fighters, sure, that makes sense.  But _some_ of the people being detained have been found innocent, and there could be more.  We were paying Pakistanis and Afghans for people they delivered that they said were terrorists, and that word was the only evidence.

You're not advocating that the innocents should also be killed, are you?  Because that'd be the most likely side effect to a "just shoot them all" policy.

I agree that there may be some innocents caught up in the mess, but I seem to remember that some have been in fact released.  It seems that those still in custody have at least some semblance of guilt at this point, and unfortunately for them, if you are involved in any terrorism, then you are guilty of supporting those groups that have defacto declared war on the west.  That is unacceptable to me, and they deserve to die.