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« Reply #105 on: August 17, 2007, 11:59:24 PM »
Hi SIK1,

Sorry for the delay about the "first combat sortie" controversy. :)

I believe you'll find the conventional definition to be launching from a carrier, completing the combat mission and returning to the carrier.

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« Reply #106 on: August 18, 2007, 08:30:51 PM »
The easiest way for me to get off a carrier with a heavy hog was told to me by an old friend in the navy. It is as follows:

1: 1 notch of flaps as the engine comes to full throttle
2: Another notch of flaps when the tail wheel leaves the deck
3: One more notch of flaps right before you leave the deck
This being said you use 3 notches of flaps...i found you gain speed quicker if you use this method.

This method never fails for me unless the cv is turning.  In that case i use WEP and maybe 2 more notches of flaps:aok

Just thought that would help.


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« Reply #107 on: August 19, 2007, 08:45:14 AM »
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« Reply #108 on: August 19, 2007, 09:54:28 AM »
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Originally posted by rednex21
The easiest way for me to get off a carrier with a heavy hog was told to me by an old friend in the navy. It is as follows:

1: 1 notch of flaps as the engine comes to full throttle
2: Another notch of flaps when the tail wheel leaves the deck
3: One more notch of flaps right before you leave the deck
This being said you use 3 notches of flaps...i found you gain speed quicker if you use this method.

This method never fails for me unless the cv is turning.  In that case i use WEP and maybe 2 more notches of flaps:aok

Just thought that would help.


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Well, during the 200+ deck runs I've experienced (C-1A and US-2B), you did not have a spare hand to play with the flap handle. You set flaps, released brakes and applied power.

Using full flaps makes every takeoff uneventful. There's never any reason NOT to use full flaps when heavily loaded.

Like I stated earlier in the thread, "Other folks will suggest you not use flaps until near the bow. Ignore them. Use full flaps." There's many pet theories, but only one tried and true, guaranteed method... Full Flaps.

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« Reply #109 on: August 19, 2007, 11:58:35 AM »
My flaps are set on my joystick:aok
That makes it easy...I have found i gain more speed this way

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« Reply #110 on: August 19, 2007, 12:17:58 PM »
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My flaps are set on my joystick:aok
That makes it easy...I have found i gain more speed this way


Yes, you may gain a couple of mph, but you more than offset that with reduced lift.

I also have flaps on my joystick..  ;)

Use whatever method you prefer, but just understand that speed is generally inconsequential if you have sufficient lift. Full flaps invariably means less risk of dipping a wing or causing an accelerated stall by applying excessive back pressure.

If you have landed aboard a CV and have rearmed, you will not need full flaps as you have an extra 200 feet of deck. But, I recommend full flaps when taking off from the spawn.

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« Reply #111 on: August 19, 2007, 12:21:35 PM »
And...in my opinion...it is easier to land a corsair on a carrier than it is to land on a runway..unless im going 80 knots

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« Reply #112 on: August 19, 2007, 12:23:01 PM »
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And...in my opinion...it is easier to land a corsair on a carrier than it is to land on a runway..unless im going 80 knots


Ground looping it?

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« Reply #113 on: August 20, 2007, 06:51:38 AM »
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Using full flaps makes every takeoff uneventful. There's never any reason NOT to use full flaps when heavily loaded.

Which is a clear indication that full flaps model is BS.
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« Reply #114 on: August 20, 2007, 07:08:15 AM »
Um. How?

Even the pilot's manual advised full flaps when taking off with extremely heavy loadouts.
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