Author Topic: Milkrunning (Read 1986 times)

Lusche · « **Reply #15 on:** June 12, 2007, 01:49:52 PM »

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Originally posted by dedalos

Actually, bombing is the only category that milking is not required.

Bombing is the only category where milking is a MUST. Been there, done that.

If you attack targets other than Strat ones, you don't get the needed Hit %. Bombing VH's or FH kills your % on the long run, you can't get a hit% of 900-1100.
You need about 20-30 base captures in buffs. I know where the guys who were #1 & # 2 in buffs last tour did get them. And how

. If you are killed too often, you don't get the neede points/death. If you Take buffs with a smaller payload and / or don't rearm, you don't get the needed points/ sortie.
And as there is no scoring for kills, you don't have any advantage if you actually battle with enemy fighters. You only benefit from avoiding any enemy resistance at every time.

And by the way, I have currently a K/D in vehicles of 8.5. And did not camp a spawn a single time in this tour (yet).

Ghastly · « **Reply #16 on:** June 12, 2007, 02:22:57 PM »

Wouldn't work anyway. The Milkrunner squads would simply have one guy launch in a vehicle (probably with a shade account) to provide token "opposition" and the milkrunning would continue unabated.

edit->dedalos beat me to it!

dedalos · « **Reply #17 on:** June 12, 2007, 03:05:50 PM »

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Originally posted by Lusche

Bombing is the only category where milking is a MUST. Been there, done that.

If you attack targets other than Strat ones, you don't get the needed Hit %. Bombing VH's or FH kills your % on the long run, you can't get a hit% of 900-1100.
You need about 20-30 base captures in buffs. I know where the guys who were #1 & # 2 in buffs last tour did get them. And how . If you are killed too often, you don't get the neede points/death. If you Take buffs with a smaller payload and / or don't rearm, you don't get the needed points/ sortie.
And as there is no scoring for kills, you don't have any advantage if you actually battle with enemy fighters. You only benefit from avoiding any enemy resistance at every time.

And by the way, I have currently a K/D in vehicles of 8.5. And did not camp a spawn a single time in this tour (yet).

OK, I guess what I am saing is that buffs have no choice. They have to hit buildings so milk running does not apply to them. There is nothing else for them to do.

Kami · « **Reply #18 on:** June 12, 2007, 04:01:14 PM »

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Originally posted by dedalos
That wont work. A squadie or friend will up a GV and just sit inside the VH so your points will count lol

Good point, well I don't really care about it anyway as my score is horrible from being a noob to this game, just a thought that popped into my head when reading a post complaining about it. Didn't mean to stir up anybody.

ozrocker · « **Reply #19 on:** June 12, 2007, 06:29:58 PM »

Milkrunning was a standard procedure for the lucky B17 crews to reach 24 missions. The 25th was more than not a milkrun. It's part of the game.
Why does it bother so many? The opposite would be called unfair( 5-10 fighters on a buff group) too. But, that's also part of the game.
Oz

halcyon · « **Reply #20 on:** June 12, 2007, 06:57:34 PM »

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Originally posted by Yknurd
If no one is around to defend a target within 3k then YOU take the damage.

There, top that one.

Undefended Medium Airfield hits YOU for 786 points of damage!
YOU die.

uptown · « **Reply #21 on:** June 12, 2007, 07:38:23 PM »

When the split arenas first came into the game, I tryed the milking thing and found it quite boring and unfulling. But, with that being said, what's the big deal if some joker wants to kill buildings all night long? The dude pays to play the game anyway they choose, as long as it's within the rules.Too many people worry about what the other guy is doing.Play your own game and let them play theirs.
Do what I do, shoot em' down,drop eggs on em' and then take their toys away.They're playing their game, I'm playing mine!

SEraider · « **Reply #22 on:** June 12, 2007, 09:18:40 PM »

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Originally posted by dedalos
Hey raider, how are ya? Sory no DA but can't play AH on new pluter.

I don't care about milk runners either. They are good target paractice. But, if score is going to mean something, they have to stop or the scoring system has to change.

Hey Man I am doing fine thanks. Let me know when your computer is working fine and we'll do the DA thing. Maybe I'll be better competition next time.

SEraider · « **Reply #23 on:** June 12, 2007, 09:27:19 PM »

Wait wait wait wait...........

MAybe we are all looking at this kinda screwed up.

I think it might be a little unfair for a Noob to come in and expect to furball with vets.

Milkrunning might just be a way for the Noob to get aquainted with AH learning curve. I had to milkrun a little at 1st to understand this game and do a little vulching to get my confidence up.

If we set the barr too high, then we might not have fresh players to keep the game growing.

Keep things the same I say, it is what grew the game.

Wes14 · « **Reply #24 on:** June 13, 2007, 06:02:21 AM »

is bombing random farms/windmills considered milkrunning?

LYNX · « **Reply #25 on:** June 13, 2007, 06:10:26 AM »

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Originally posted by Wes14
is bombing random farms/windmills considered milkrunning?

No it's just considered not being able to find the top secret calibration instructions:lol

Otherwise know as the calibration hack by our younger gamers:rofl

dedalos · « **Reply #26 on:** June 13, 2007, 10:00:59 AM »

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Originally posted by ozrocker
Milkrunning was a standard procedure for the lucky B17 crews to reach 24 missions. The 25th was more than not a milkrun. It's part of the game.
Why does it bother so many? The opposite would be called unfair( 5-10 fighters on a buff group) too. But, that's also part of the game.
Oz

You are missing the point. The B17s you are talking about were fighting for their lifes. You are playing a game.

Tha point is that the creator of the came thought it important to create a scoring system and rank players. For this scoring system to have any meaning what so ever for the people that care about it, it either has to change or milk running has to stop. Milk running is not going to stop so the system would have to change. Thats all. Nothing against milkrunning or milkrunners.

Good luck with that btw

Wes14 · « **Reply #27 on:** June 13, 2007, 10:41:50 AM »

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Originally posted by LYNX
No it's just considered not being able to find the top secret calibration instructions:lol

Otherwise know as the calibration hack by our younger gamers:rofl

i never use the bomb sight,i'm just like "looks good enough,LET ER RIP!!"

maybe thats why i miss the bases and hit the nearby Farm:rofl

LYNX · « **Reply #28 on:** June 13, 2007, 12:12:58 PM »

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Originally posted by Wes14
i never use the bomb sight,i'm just like "looks good enough,LET ER RIP!!"

maybe that's why i miss the bases and hit the nearby Farm:rofl

The defendant has changed his plea to insanity me lawd......

Gulp · « **Reply #29 on:** June 13, 2007, 01:19:28 PM »

Theres no solution everyone would be happy with. Picking, milkrunning, ganging, sneak attacks on poorly defended bases, overwhelming numbers, were all things you wanted to do during WWII.

There will always be folks who look at the maps and drool at the easiest targets and those that see a huge red darbar and relish taking on impossible odds. Throw another group of guys in that are looking for straight-up, sportsmanlike fights, now throw in the fact that 1/2 want to win the map while 1/2 just want to furball, divide that by some playing for score, some who could care less about score, and multiply that by the fact that most in here are a mixture of all these groups depending on the mood, and it's a mess.

But, a very fun mess.