Milkrunning

[Kami]

Is there a way that htc could code the game so that if no one is spawning at a field or perhaps within a certain distance to it (6 k) that you don't get points for destroying the objects.  That should help with milkrunning problems I think.  What's everyones opinions on this.

[Lusche]

Cool. Kinda  defending a target  by just NOT defending it.

[Yknurd]

If no one is around to defend a target within 3k then YOU take the damage.

There, top that one.

[BaldEagl]

HT secretly sneaks into eveyones homes, hanging a booby-trapped 5 gallon bucket of spoiled milk over their computer chairs, tripped to go off anytime they purposefully milk a target.

[ROC]

Want HTC to just play the game for you?  That would solve all the "problems" wouldn't it?

Defend the base, simple solution.  If you can't get someone to defend the base then That is a Far Far bigger problem than the guy attacking it.

All your solutions are built into the game.  HT coded enough ordinance and planes to allow you to solve your problem.  Up to you to solve it if you think it's that important.

[dedalos]

The solution is easy.  Remove scoring for milkrunning completly.  What do you need score for attacking a building anyway?  What does that show?

Keep the scoring for captures and moving objects. Killing a building should mean nothing as far as score goes.  Attack should score vs GVs and fightervs planes

Now, for bombers leave it as is or find a way to incorporate their damage to a base capture.  (Heavy bombers. Not anything that can cary a bomb)

Having to wait for a serten map to come on so you can take a PT at a city by the lake to fire a couple of rockets and be 733t score tard is kind of ridicilus.

[SEraider]

Milkrunning is just 1 facet to this game that is enjoyed by many.  Although I don't have the patients to milkrun and I am personally not bothered by people who do.

Dedalos

[dedalos]

Originally posted by SEraider
Milkrunning is just 1 facet to this game that is enjoyed by many.  Although I don't have the patients to milkrun and I am personally not bothered by people who do.

Dedalos

Hey raider, how are ya?  Sory no DA but can't play AH on new pluter.

I don't care about milk runners either.  They are good target paractice.  But, if score is going to mean something, they have to stop or the scoring system has to change.

[LYNX]

Originally posted by Kami
Is there a way that htc could code the game so that if no one is spawning at a field or perhaps within a certain distance to it (6 k) that you don't get points for destroying the objects.  That should help with milkrunning problems I think.  What's everyones opinions on this.

There is a distinct difference between milkin it an PORKIN it.  Porkin is difficult if you intend to survive where as milkin say an enemy factory behind your own lines, is a walk in the park.

However, having said that BOTH actually need to be done if your a strat player.

BRIEF HISTORY

To capture a field in ye olden day all you had to do was kill ack and land 10 troopers on the field.  The little buggers used to run into the tower.

Then towns were added (only 21 structures back then) but if you hit all fuel cells the enemy were restricted to 25% fuel.  That was changed to 75% minimum porkage.  Then if you killed the barracks you could stall the enemies advance all along their front.  That was changed by adding many more barracks.  

Also more acks were added to stop just 1 fighter de-acking to set up the vulch.  

Salvo calibrated bombing was done away with, I presume to encourage folk to actually calibrate our brand new laser site.  Towns were made larger.

HQ was made tougher. No part damage as in dot dar, friendly or otherwise,  or no dar bars.  It was made all or nothing. Then it was made tougher still.  No longer can just 1set of bomber kill HQ.

Vbase VH's have been separated making it a little tricky for 1 bomber to suicide all the hangers in 1 pass.

WHAT ABOUT THE FUTURE

Why not make it so at least 1  FH, 1BH, and 1 VH are actually indi-bloody-structable.  Add 3 time the ack and make flak panzers cannon proof.  Make CV's destrucable by D3A's guns and make SB 16 inch instead of 8Inch.

Double the ammount of supply convoys, trains and barges.  Make it so factories have to actually show 0% before they stop supplying.  No slow down....I could go on but I won't deprive the needy to add to the thread:rolleyes:

[Kami]

Originally posted by Lusche
Cool. Kinda  defending a target  by just NOT defending it.

No I mean they can capture it still but they can't get points for it if there is no opposition.  So base defense is still important but the points that milkers want is not there anymore.  People who are interested in taking bases will still want to to get a strategic advantage.

[Lusche]

Originally posted by dedalos
 But, if score is going to mean something, they have to stop or the scoring system has to change.

It's a common myth that you have to be a milkrunner to get a high ranking. I do know a lot of players in the Top 50 who never set a foot into milker's heaven (EW & MW)
(No, I'm not one of them )

And contrary to common belief, it's impossible to get a high overall rank only with milkrunning. You have actually get a good K/D and K/H in Fighter, Attacker and Vehicle mode. Only shooting structures gets you nowhere.

The only category where milkrunning is a "must" if you want to get into the top 3 is the Bomber one.

[thndregg]

Originally posted by LYNX

Salvo calibrated bombing was done away with, I presume to encourage folk to actually calibrate our brand new laser site.  Towns were made larger.

We'll never see it again, I'm sure, but I wish we had the calibration method that was in use over 3 years ago. It wouldn't be so easy for me to level-bomb CV's from 8K then.

[Lusche]

Originally posted by Kami
No I mean they can capture it still but they can't get points for it if there is no opposition.  So base defense is still important but the points that milkers want is not there anymore.  People who are interested in taking bases will still want to to get a strategic advantage.

And when people want to attack strat targets to help their country? You can't capture them.
If no one shows up to defend, you dont get any points. But  if some silly noob is trying to get your buffs with his Hurri I but never gets closer than than 3K, you get points?

[dedalos]

Originally posted by Lusche
It's a common myth that you have to be a milkrunner to get a high ranking. I do know a lot of players in the Top 50 who never set a foot into milker's heaven (EW & MW)

And contrary to common belief, it's impossible to get a high overall rank only with milkrunning. You have actually get a good K/D and K/H in Fighter, Attacker and Vehicle mode. Only shooting structures gets you nowhere.

The only category where milkrunning is a "must" if you want to get into the top 3 is the Bomber one.

I am sorry if I left out cherry picking, vulching and spawn camping.  The myth is what you described.  The only way to get to the top is to engage in some or all of the above activities.

There is no way to get a good K/D in a plane with out vulching and picking.
No way in GVs without spawn camping and milking the city by the lake
Actually, bombing is the only category that milking is not required.

[dedalos]

Originally posted by dedalos
I am sorry if I left out cherry picking, vulching and spawn camping.  The myth is what you described.  The only way to get to the top is to engage in some or all of the above activities.

There is no way to get a good K/D in a plane with out vulching and picking.
No way in GVs without spawn camping and milking the city by the lake
Actually, bombing is the only category that milking is not required.

That wont work.  A squadie or friend will up a GV and just sit inside the VH so your points will count lol