Zero time pilot in high performance aircraft

[Wolfala]

http://s200.photobucket.com/albums/aa90/mcrock_photo/

http://discussions.flightaware.com/viewtopic.php?t=3618&sid=37322473f65bb6259875a4481322370d

Check this. A guy with ZERO time in anything decides he wants to buy a plane. So he goes out and buys the most high performance single on the market, leaving out home built and experimental designs. He buys a years worth of instruction. On the way back from the factory, with the factory assigned instructor - they eat it in a 20 knot crosswind up in Marin County at Gnoss field (DVO).

Lesson learned - guys with money die at higher rates for reasons of prestige.











IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: 171SR Make/Model: SR22 Description: SR-22
Date: 06/10/2007 Time: 2115

Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
Damage: Substantial

LOCATION
City: NOVATO State: CA Country: US

DESCRIPTION
AIRCRAFT ON LANDING, WENT OFF THE SIDE OF THE RUNWAY, NOVATO, CA

INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
# Crew: 2 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Pass: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
# Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:

WEATHER: NOT REPORTED

OTHER DATA
Activity: Pleasure Phase: Landing Operation: OTHER


FAA FSDO: OAKLAND, CA (WP27) Entry date: 06/11/2007

News link:  http://www.marinij.com/ci_6111253?source=most_viewed

Three people, including a flight instructor, were shaken but uninjured after the small plane they had been flying skidded off the runway at Marin County Airport at Novato's Gnoss Field and landed upright Sunday.

The plane hopped and skipped over a moat east of the runway and came to rest in a nearby field.

"They're extremely lucky they didn't catch a wing," Novato Fire Protection District Capt. Dmitri Menzel.

All three people refused medical transport, Menzel said. The incident was reported to Novato authorities at 1:59 p.m.

Menzel said the plane had been recently purchased and the owner or owners were taking a flight to orient themselves with the features of the aircraft when a strong crosswind swept across the aircraft as it attempted to land.

"Typically, there are some pretty high winds out there," Menzel said.

"It looks like they miscalculated and overcorrected. Luckily, the plane came to rest upright."

Novato fire officials didn't release the names of the plane's occupants or their hometowns. Menzel said no fuel leaked from the aircraft.

Gnoss Field is equipped with a 3,000-foot runway and is open 24 hours and seven days a week to aircraft enthusiasts, according to the county's Web site.

The 120-acre airport is considered home to more than 290 aircraft, from small single-engine planes to corporate aircraft

[Chairboy]

What about the (presumably) high time instructor? Where was he?

Jeepers, that sucks.

It's interesting, the Cirrus SR-20 and SR-22 have higher than average accident rates, adjusted for fleet size.  I'm guessing a big part of it is that it's pretty aggresively marketed to rich low time pilots.  "Super safe, and look, this magic button (the BRS) will fix any problems you have!"

[Wolfala]

Originally posted by Chairboy
What about the (presumably) high time instructor? Where was he?

Jeepers, that sucks.

It's interesting, the Cirrus SR-20 and SR-22 have higher than average accident rates, adjusted for fleet size.  I'm guessing a big part of it is that it's pretty aggresively marketed to rich low time pilots.  "Super safe, and look, this magic button (the BRS) will fix any problems you have!"

The 20 isn't a problem for a primary student. But a 22 - different CG, and TN22 where u need water ballast in the trunk b/c of the turbo upfront really messing up your CG - is a completely different beast.

[cav58d]

Originally posted by Chairboy
What about the (presumably) high time instructor? Where was he?
 

Not as high as you would think...Not high at all actually....

This is a posting from late May in a job forum

Just wanted to let everyone know that we hire for our factory training position in Duluth on a regular basis. This position is a neat instructor job that will have you delivering and training in brand new Cirrus aircraft all across the country. You will be required to relocate to Duluth, MN where the Cirrus Factory is located, however, you typically won't spend a lot of time there in the winter because clients don't favor the Minnesota winters. The job pays $185 dollars a day and $90 for a half day with a 15 day a month average. The position includes fully benefited health insurance for which you will pay no premiums.

Minimums are:

CFII (required to become a Cirrus Standardized Instructor Pilot, CSIP)

500 Total Time (750 hours or more is competitive)

200 Dual Given (400 hours or more is competitive)

We currently have one position open which we’ll accept applications for until Friday May 18, 2007 at 5pm CST.

Go to http://cirrus.aero.und.edu/job_upload.php and follow the directions to submit a resume, cover letter, and application.

Resumes, cover letters, and applications are accepted through this website 24/7 but we only hire/interview on an as needed basis.
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