Originally posted by Stoney74
but I'm talking about a perception from those of an opposing view point than yours. I'm not an apologist for the War Winners, just trying to flesh out a point. Those that fight the war are looking for a different kind of combat than those that furball--agreed? But, it is still combat, just of a different variety.
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This statement highlights the play-my-way aspect of the win the war side of this argument. While you may not subscribe to either viewpoint, you are articulating theirs.
Let's look at this.
All things in the game are in there to foster combat. Period. That simple fact is right from the keyboard of the designer/inventor/programmer.
Further, no one form of combat is any more justified, appropriate or approved than any other. Combat is the goal; all combat, any combat. Again, this if from the keyboard of the designer/inventor/programmer.
Therefore, it is clearly an error of perception for war winners to think that somehow their form of combat, their effort to play the game they wish to play it deserves or requires any special consideration or support from any other player in the game. The mechanics of the MA actually have no bearing on that simple fact.
It's just not so. To attempt to portray it as such is simply play-my-way sour grapes.
some arguments of the Furball crowd can come off as a bit cavalier towards those that want to fight the war simply because of the fact that some of the mechanics of the MA's don't affect furballing as they do the war-fighters
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Again, forgive me for repeating this simple fact over and over, the mechanics of the MA are only there to engender combat. Further, no particular form of combat (furball, war winning) is more worthy or justified or acceptable or
the goal than any other.
So actually, the mechanics of the MA affect combat... all combat, any combat... and that's their only intent. To say they affect one form of combat more or less than another completely misses the point. As long as the mechanics of the MA engender combat, they are correctly serving their purpose.
Everyone is free to choose their own form of fun. The mechanics of the MA are immaterial because winning the war is immaterial. Again, the goal is NOT to win the war. The goal is to
promote combat and hence fun
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This whole idea that somehow the war winners have some divine right to special consideration because of their holy quest to win the war is simply (as our Brit friends would say) bollocks.
It's about combat and hence fun. PERIOD.
Until the war winners accept the fact that their particular quest for fun is no more and no less justified than any other fun seeking, this problem will remain.
For emphasis: It's NOT about winning the war. It's about combat and fun.
To me, it seems that currently the game supports furballing in the DA, with war-fighting in the MA. But, that's just my opinion.
Indeed, it is your opinion and a perfect example of what I just stated.
You are entitled to your opinion but HiTech himself has pointed out that you are wrong.
One more time:
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Some play the game to fulfill the actual parameters that it was designed for, which is to overcome and conquer bases, and eventually the country, thus winning the war/game.
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This is a false assumption.
The game was designed to have fun at different types of combat. Conquering bases is just a means to promote combat and hence fun. But by no means is it more or less justified than going out and just mixing it up.
HiTech
HiTech CLEARLY states that the designed game parameters are NOT "to overcome and conquer bases, and eventually the country, thus winning the war/game".
He tells you THIS IS A FALSE ASSUMPTION.
He goes on to explain that this game is about having fun at different types of combat, about having fun THROUGH combat.
That's it. That's all. People keep trying to make it into something else but there's the designer's intent. Accept it. Be at peace with it.
Furballing and War-fighting are not sole designs goals in either the MA or the DA. They are merely types of fun engendered by combat.
That's all the deeper this entire question has to go.
Now, as to why the DA is not and never will be the same as a good fur in the MA... that's a different thread, but I assure you it is true.
