Scoring as Attk

[LYNX]

Originally posted by BaldEagl
Nope.  All true.

I do hunt buffs with 110's (gotta love 6 cannons plus machine guns for buff hunting plus the 110's performance at alt is good).

I do fly Hurri IID's and Yak-9T's in fighter mode (I can usually get 2-3 kills but aiming is hard... killing is not... it's for the challenge).

I do fly La-5's in attack mode.  They are particularly good at strafing water-born targets (LVT's and PT's).

I do fly the F6F-5 almost exclusively in attack mode (one of the best dive bombing platforms in the game IMHO and a very capable fighter after the ord is gone).

I do fly almost everything else in fighter mode all the time (I thought the game was mostly about fighter combat).

I am finding it hard to reply in a positive way.  Hard not to come across derogatory..... slapping you in the face.  I don't wish to do that.  

Say that if I was in a c47 landed at the town and you was ranked, for example sake, top 20 fighter and didn't shoot those last 2 buildings I would be pissed off but understanding of your erm, goals.  However, being ranked as you are I would be enthusiastically pissed off.  Even I in fighter mode with a 13% (double your own) hit rate could spare a few rounds for a capture.

I concur the F6F is a groovy tool but yakT's and hurriD's are for GV's but if you up one for chits and jiggles why not blow out the last few buildings?  It ain't going to matter.  

Friend if your thinking of score I would suggest you reevaluate your stats.   You spend more time in fighter mode which is your worst stat.  Least time in GV's but best stat.  Yes it's about combat and you can still do that in "attack" mode.

Oh by the way you can get chute kills by bailing out and the cons dies in your wreckage or a con you already hit dies while your in a chute.  I have never shot anyone with the 45 but I get at least 1 chute kill per TOD.

Sorry if I offended you

[Lusche]

Originally posted by LYNX
but yakT's and hurriD's are for GV's  

A common misconception. The Yak9T has HE rounds and was intended to hunt bombers, not tanks.

The only true tankbusting AP firing planes we currently have are the Hurri D and the Il-2.

Two recent threads on this topic:
http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=202530
http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=104441

[LYNX]

Thank you for the correction on the yakT

[whiteman]

Originally posted by BaldEagl
Bomber mode doesn't count kills of anything toward score but they are added to your expanded kill stats.

Same thing with kills in a chute (a man after bailing) with your .45.  The go in expanded kill stats as a kill in a chute but don't count toward score.

Also GV kills in fighter mode; same thing.

OK, i was thinking that most the uncounted kills were people aguring or area kills until i saw i had 33 not counted LOL. Thanks man

[Yknurd]

I fly buffs in fighter mode and fighters in bomber mode.

But that's just me.

[BaldEagl]

Originally posted by LYNX
I am finding it hard to reply in a positive way.  Hard not to come across derogatory..... slapping you in the face.  I don't wish to do that.  

Say that if I was in a c47 landed at the town and you was ranked, for example sake, top 20 fighter and didn't shoot those last 2 buildings I would be pissed off but understanding of your erm, goals.  However, being ranked as you are I would be enthusiastically pissed off.  Even I in fighter mode with a 13% (double your own) hit rate could spare a few rounds for a capture.

I concur the F6F is a groovy tool but yakT's and hurriD's are for GV's but if you up one for chits and jiggles why not blow out the last few buildings?  It ain't going to matter.  

Friend if your thinking of score I would suggest you reevaluate your stats.   You spend more time in fighter mode which is your worst stat.  Least time in GV's but best stat.  Yes it's about combat and you can still do that in "attack" mode.

Oh by the way you can get chute kills by bailing out and the cons dies in your wreckage or a con you already hit dies while your in a chute.  I have never shot anyone with the 45 but I get at least 1 chute kill per TOD.

Sorry if I offended you

No offense taken.

If you were in a nearly destroyed town with a goon and I was the only one there to finish it off I'd do so but I'm rarely the only one there so I leave it to others.

I guess I could fly a Yak-9T or Hurri IID to take out a last few buildings but I tend to fly them in either base defense or into a central furball.

I continue to fly fighter to improve.  Realtive to my fighter score and my hit % both are down a little right now (as are k/d, k/s and k/t) as I had a few bad nights in a row (figher rank from 4xx to 7xx until last night when I came back up to 6xx and hit % dropping from almost 10% to almost 5% before rebounding a little last night) but that's not the real reason it's not better (aside from me being only a mediocre fighter pilot).  

I pick the arena where we are outnumbered (unless it's NDIsles).  I fly into big red dar bars by myself far too often.  I fly upwards of 50 planes each camp some (well, many) of which I'm not totally up to speed in.  I usually don't fly the same plane two sorties in a row.  I get into slow turning one-on-ones (having fun) but inevitably get ganged by the multitudes who are attracted to my con-magnet.  I fly from 1 base back and go back there to land (killing my k/t as does buff hunting up high).  In other words, I don't fly smart.  I tried it and got bored.  

I fly to challenge myself and have fun and try to do just well enough to keep a decent overall rank.  One day I hope to be among the best but without compromising my game (what I have fun doing... which could be anything in anything depending on my mood).

[Husky01]

Originally posted by SteveBailey
They are gaming the system.  When they  go in fighter mode they fly like timid little titmice and try not to get in any fights, just  cherries and vulches.  This way they can achieve a high fighter rank w/out actually possessing very much skill.

You don't have to fly timid to be ranked in the top 5 in fighters.

[SteveBailey]

Originally posted by FALCONWING

and for the other "guilty consciences" that i salamandered that posted (all from the same squad hehehe)....:
BTW have NEVER seen these elite Pile-its oppose a BoP mission...(unless of course you count zazen in a field gun or dolfo/killnu in a flak) so the "i fight 50 of you crap is hee-larious!!!  I cant even credit one of these guys for having saved a field from capture by upping and breaking a cap.....

what i HAVE seen repeatedly is what i stated..these pilots doing e-picking/alt picking in tempests/262s/f4u1c's  spleen...

Although I do not consider myself an elite pileit, I am in the squad you are baiting.  Go ahead, find the last time I was in Tempest, 262, or F4U-C.  

You, however Falcon, have almost ALL your kills this tour in a spit 16, F4U-C, 262,  and LA7.

I log on, switch sides to the team with the lowest number of players, and up my plane towards the biggest enemy darbar I can find.(If I can avoid it, I stay away from TT island). I do this every single night. This means I spend just about my entire playing time defending bases.  Last night it was 19 and V6 mostly, for instance.

You cast a big net with your foolish stereotype.

Steve

[Stampf]

You know when I first read some of Steve's posts I thought, "Who is this arrogant arse?"  I couln't place him in my in game experiences and his posts left me wondering who the heck he was.

The last couple of weeks I've been able to find out first hand as I have found myself in the same fights as Steve numerous times lately.  He does one thing.

Ups a Mustang and flies it into harms way.  Numbers mean nothing to the man.  He flies straight at em, helps countymen whatever the situation is, and lets his guns do the talking.  It's easy to find him during the fight.  He's in that ever shrinking group of red icons...  

Steve.

[Furball]

Originally posted by SteveBailey
You cast a big net with your foolish stereotype.

Originally posted by SteveBailey
They are gaming the system.  When they  go in fighter mode they fly like timid little titmice and try not to get in any fights, just  cherries and vulches.  This way they can achieve a high fighter rank w/out actually possessing very much skill.

I believe there is a term to describe this... it involves pots and kettles, but if i say it, lev will kill me.

[Husky01]

Again you dont have to fly timid or carefully to get a top 5 fighter spot.

[SteveBailey]

Originally posted by Furball
I believe there is a term to describe this... it involves pots and kettles, but if i say it, lev will kill me.

Look at the OP's original post, he was referring to(from my perspective), as was I,  people that are top ranked who manipulate fighter/attack, not all people who fly in attack mode.  You, and a couple of others, mistakenly drew that conclusion that I was referring to all folks who spend the bulk of their time in attack mode. I apologize if I wasn't clear.  I hope this clears it up for you.

Here,  I'll save you a little search time:

looking at some of the top scores and this seems to be ther norm.

Edit: I know there are several people who do this because I used to fly with some.  I've heard comments like these(they made me laugh):
1. Dude, I can't come down there and help you, I might get killed. I'm in fighter mode!"
2. I'm not going to up supplies, it will wreck my kills per sortie and kills per time.
3. I'm not going after those buffs, I'm in fighter mode.
4.  Let's deack the base them come back in fighter mode and vulch.

and my favorite all time one:

5. I got killed, I'm never going to help you again.

[megadud]

i didn't even know you could switch from fiter to attak

i just thought you upped a plane and killed things

[Lusche]

Originally posted by megadud

i just thought you upped a plane and killed things

A rather simplicistic approach. I guess you even thought you should have some "fun", eh?








j/k

[Furball]

Steve, i was talking from the viewpoint of someone who fights scored as attack for the majority of the time, i also know how to rank.  I have been ranked #1 a few times when i used to care about it - it didnt change how i played the game and fought as a fighter.  

Quite a large part of the fighter rank is based on K/T, the best way to get that i find is to up from a base which is under attack, defending against CV's especially,  you can average over 20 kills/hour over an entire tour doing that.

My point was that you cannot generalise everyone who is ranked high, and scores as attack as: "When they go in fighter mode they fly like timid little titmice and try not to get in any fights, just cherries and vulches".  

Although i do agree that this may be the case with a lot of them.


Just seen your edit, yes, i have encountered people like that in game numerous times too.

And yes, i did originally misunderstand your post.