CV Bomber Formations

[Lusche]

Originally posted by tedrbr
Well, we only have kill and death numbers to work with from database HTC let's us see, not "use" or "takeoffs", but P-40B probably sees use in EW, and the SBD's sees some similar use in CV operations (SBD's accounted for around 400 kills in May, Arado just over 200).  When comparing it's numbers based on deaths and kills, it comes in dead last: but even allowing for Arados that hit target and RTB, it's usage is still down with the Val, Kate, SBD, Bf 109E-4, and C.202.

Even in EW, a P40B is an exceptional rare sight. If you encounter a P40 there, its a E model (and even that is quite rare compared to HurriC, 109F, SpitV.


I think the kills/deaths stats work fine for all planes but the Arado 234. It's simply a plane that rarely kills and, thanks to it's performance envelope, is rarely killed. I would say the overwhelming majority of Arado's return to base without leaving a trace on the killstats page.

Originally posted by tedrbr
The Arado is by no means a bomber perk sink. Personally, I'll use Ki-67's over a Arado.

Same here. I used the 234 a lot for porking troops, back in the old days before the numbers of  barracks on fields were increased. But now I rely on the Ki for pork runs.

[MstWntd]

Originally posted by tedrbr

Overall, I think enabling buff formations from CV's would be a good idea.

and have them be floating off the deck?

[PanzerIV]

Did you say Arado ONLY had 200 kills? Uh.....for a plane with no rear visual and the guns mounted in the tail, thats alot! Usually smart people dont even take the gu ns, they are virtually useless!

[E25280]

I believe the reason CV bombers do not have formations is their historic use.  IIRC, CV bombers flew in much the same way as CV fighters, i.e. with a wingman, and in relatively small numbers, perhaps a squadron or two grouped together.

On the other hand, land-based bombers flew in MUCH larger numbers (1000 bomber missions, anyone?) and flew in a "box" formation, which is what I believe the three bomber set represents.

So, no, I do not agree that CV-based single-engined bombers should have the formation option that the land-based multi-engined bombers currently enjoy.

[FiLtH]

I would be nice to see formations for CV planes and instead of the
3 plane vic, maybe a line astern type, or abreast..whatever its called when its slanted off the lead left or right.

[OdinGrunherze]

Originally posted by FiLtH
I would be nice to see formations for CV planes and instead of the
3 plane vic, maybe a line astern type, or abreast..whatever its called when its slanted off the lead left or right.

Its called Echelon Left/Right

SBD's would stay together to maximize defense, and peel off into line astern during the diving attack... Coming down in a "train" to drop their bombs... I think it would be workable, and very cool...

Formation select would be very useful at times...

OG

[WMDnow]

Thats what I was thinking, train style instead of left/right.  I support this idea!

-WMD

[MstWntd]

Originally posted by PanzerIV
Did you say Arado ONLY had 200 kills? Uh.....for a plane with no rear visual and the guns mounted in the tail, thats alot! Usually smart people dont even take the gu ns, they are virtually useless!

I've shot more planes down with those guns than targets hit with the bombs...

[AAolds]

Originally posted by Lusche
throwing them away is no solution at all - And you can already use Ar234 to waste them

I would love to beable to up a form of TBMs, SBDs, or other carrier based bombers!  If the Ar234 could spawn from the CV, I would certainly try it.   As for wasting perks, the only good perks are fighter perks anymore, I cherish those and have few, my GV n Bomber perks.... I could really care less and I have plenty.  Go figure.