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Offline NOT

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« on: June 14, 2007, 07:40:58 AM »
OR UNPERK THE TIGER.






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Offline AAolds

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« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2007, 09:01:43 AM »
I think this qualifies for the wishlist.  Otherwise, I totally agree.
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« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2007, 09:11:22 AM »
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Offline 68Ripper

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Re: Perk The Sherman!!!!!
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2007, 11:42:29 AM »
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OR UNPERK THE TIGER.






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Agreed, the Tiger has been softened up so much they have become easy kills for any of the other tank types. A panzer can one shot kill a Tiger even from a distance.
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« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2007, 12:15:13 PM »
i agree
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Offline Virage

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« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2007, 12:42:19 PM »
The firefly has the best gun in the game and the second best armor.  

Perk it.

About that armor... was it really that effective vs. the PzrIV 75mm?
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Offline Krusty

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« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2007, 12:56:29 PM »
Tigrs are still able to take multiple 1k bombs with near misses (1 foot from the treads) and keep on truckin'... Does the sherman do that? Last I heard the Firefly was most vulnerable to any bombs as long as they're within a football field of it.

Perhaps you shouldn't be calling for an unperked tiger. Perhaps you should be calling for a light perk on the Firefly? (Say, 5 points?)
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Offline Stampf

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« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2007, 01:10:11 PM »
The tank war has lost all appeal to me.  Opposing forces facing off in FF's from opposite Mountain ranges...I posted this on the Vehicle board but will paste here as well.  You're not going to get a big supportive outcry here because the majority of the population is enjoying this totally non historical "Day of the Sherman".  Not that the FF wasn't a great improvisation, but,...well...see below:


Firefly - Great Gun on a sound proven chasis. Good work by the Brits in adapting to the horrific losses incured by the big German guns. Was an effective Tiger Destroyer in WWII.

Problem with Firefly in AcesHigh - Its almost comparable to the issues people have with the LA7. Great WWII weapon...BUT...it, like the LA7 was never the "Backbone" of it's respective countires forces,...YET...They are everywhere on the AH2 battlefield. Also I believe the range of gun and hardness of armor need to be looked at critically by HTC.

Possible solutions:

Perk the FF, preferably after introducing the standard US M4 Sherman battle tank. Let's face it. For all it's shortcomings, the M4 is a popular tank.

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Unperk the Tiger. Probably not a good idea.

Best possible solution (IMHO):

Introduce the perk free PanzerMK5. The "Panther". The Panther...WAS, (after Introduction) the main battle tank of German armoured forces, and it is absent from the battle field. Result: Tiger sits in the Hanger and the AH world is running amok with...A very unigue and effective version of a Tank produced in small numbers compared to its in game and absent from game contemporaries.

I'm still upping Tigers, but it is increasingly frustrating, when bouncing rounds from an 88, off of an M4's turrent or upper plates at range.
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Offline BaldEagl

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« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2007, 01:13:36 PM »
The Tiger still has it's advantages.  It is still, as Krusty pointed out, the best thing to be sitting in with Jabo's overhead but it's toughness has been severely compromised by the Firefly.

I think the perk on the Tiger needs to be dramatically reduced while the Firefly needs a light perk applied.  Both.  Maybe half the perk price of the Tiger then make the Firefly perked at half that.
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Offline Krusty

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« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2007, 01:14:29 PM »
TIGR is already at half what it originally was. It's still a major threat to strat and fields, and I think because of that it should retain a decent sized perk.
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« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2007, 01:22:12 PM »
Introduce a standard Sherman for free, then give the FF a slight perk, maybe 10.
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Offline FrodeMk3

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« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2007, 01:35:23 PM »
From what I've read, Very few German anti-tank guns had trouble with a Sherman's armor. The 88, especially, was said to go through a Sherman lengthwise, at any angle. I would figure that a FF struck by a Tiger's Main gun would be a dead FF, but this has not been the case. To more realistically reflect this, the FF's armor should be un-nerfed.
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Offline soda72

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« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2007, 01:39:08 PM »

             perk
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ostwind        05
panzer         05
Sherman FF     10
Tiger          50

m3              0
m16             0
m8              0
jeep            0

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« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2007, 01:53:09 PM »
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             perk
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ostwind        05
panzer         05
Sherman FF     10
Tiger          50

m3              0
m16             0
m8              0
jeep            0

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T34 =??
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Offline Krusty

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« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2007, 01:57:40 PM »
oh what the hell, leave it unperked!
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