Author Topic: Tax Evaders Challenge Feds (Read 2182 times)

Sundowner · « **Reply #60 on:** June 22, 2007, 04:50:09 AM »

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Originally posted by john9001
"Ed Brown, a retired exterminator, and his wife, a dentist, have bragged that the compound is self-sufficient and capable of running entirely on solar, wind and geothermal energies."

well that proves they are a bunch of loonies.

Regards,
Sun

lazs2 · « **Reply #61 on:** June 22, 2007, 09:57:06 AM »

Yep.. where is the praise from the left about the "low carbon footprint" of the "compound"?

When it is someone the left wing media wants to smear it is always a "compound" even if it is a log cabin.

I think that it is good that the government has to go there and make it's case.

one way or the other. If they can get the sympathy of everyone who will then agree with storch... that we are the enemy... the people are the enemy of each other and the government is good... so be it.

If they can make their case by slaughtering everyone they can and throwing the rest in prison... well.. that proves something too.

Weaver lost a family because he didn't pay a $5 tax.. I think these people will die for a bigger tax debt but.. a tax in any case. No one knows why the people at Waco died... they could have died for not paying class three machine gun tax but it was never proved they even had machine guns.

The government is perfectly willing to kill you if you resist when they come to take your things and lock you up for not paying taxes if you have the termidity to resist.

lazs

Jackal1 · « **Reply #62 on:** June 22, 2007, 10:00:14 AM »

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says Stephen Taylor, a Plainfield native who is state agriculture commissioner.

The voice of "the people".

Hap · « **Reply #63 on:** June 22, 2007, 10:58:56 AM »

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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Legality and Morality hardly ever coincide.

There's an assertion for freshman debaters.

Hap · « **Reply #64 on:** June 22, 2007, 11:00:15 AM »

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Originally posted by storch it is my duty as a beneficiary of this great society to carry my share of the load.[/B]

There's a refreshingly unselfish point of view.

bsdaddict · « **Reply #65 on:** June 22, 2007, 11:04:15 AM »

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Elfie · « **Reply #66 on:** June 22, 2007, 04:12:04 PM »

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Weaver lost a family because he didn't pay a $5 tax..

First time I have heard that, care to elaborate Lazs?

From all accounts I have seen, this is what started the process that led to the stand off at Ruby Ridge.

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At the 1986 World Congress, a biker named Gus Magisono befriended Randy Weaver. In actuality, Magisono was undercover ATF informant Kenneth Faderley. Gus asked Randy to sell him some sawed-off shotguns. Initially, Randy refused, arguing that he could not afford to purchase the shotguns, but Magisono persisted. Magisono eventually agreed to provide the shotguns, along with instructions regarding the length he wanted. Magisono then purchased the guns back from Weaver, ensuring that Weaver had violated federal weapons laws. According to Magisono, the guns were sawed off 3/8th inch shorter than the legal minimum. Weaver denies cutting the barrels to below the legal length, insisting that Magisono further shortened the barrels to below the minimum legal overall length of 18 inches after purchase to create a violation.

The ATF confronted Weaver in June 1990, offering to dismiss the weapons charges in exchange for Randy's infiltration and information against the Aryan Nations. Randy refused, and subsequently notified the local Aryan Nations members of the offer and his refusal.

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #67 on:** June 22, 2007, 04:40:26 PM »

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Originally posted by Elfie
First time I have heard that, care to elaborate Lazs?

From all accounts I have seen, this is what started the process that led to the stand off at Ruby Ridge.

so first they tried to entrap him. then they tried to frame him.
then they tried to extort him.

And Feds and law enforcement wonder why the people have so little trust in them
A good chunk of them are more criminal particularly at the fderal level then the criminals they try to bust LOL

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #68 on:** June 22, 2007, 05:29:44 PM »

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Originally posted by Hap
There's an assertion for freshman debaters.

It's an assertion of a person who has studied history.

Your counter-assertion shows a person who has not.

Elfie · « **Reply #69 on:** June 22, 2007, 05:59:19 PM »

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so first they tried to entrap him. then they tried to frame him.
then they tried to extort him.

Yeah, thats basically what happened.

Here's a link to an article about the Justice Department's investigation.

http://www.stormfront.org/ruby.htm

There is a link to the actual report in that article, but the link wasn't working for me.

hyena426 · « **Reply #70 on:** June 22, 2007, 07:05:12 PM »

i been lising to george noory on coast to coast for the past few weeks while im working about this income tax..funny thing is..i only heard about it on there..none of my freind have till this week..lol

i agree with some taxes..i pay all my taxes..even know im being taxed for things that have had there taxes paid for over and over..like my mustang..its over 33 years old..it got taxed when it was paid for brand new.and it gets taxed every time its sold. and every time i buy plates and tabs for it...i think its totaly wrong to tax us for things that have had there taxes allready paid for in full..im allready being taxed on my income and food and land..let alone have to pay taxes on my rigs over and over..i dont agree with the browns totaly..but i can see why there fed up.. why do we have to pay taxes on things that were taxed allready and paid in full? .why does the goverment tax me on a car that has allready been taxed over and over till the end of its life?

cause of pure greed..imagine the money they make off all the sales of cars that are older than dog @#$% and been taxed every time its sold...the old model t..imagine how much they make off a car that has had its taxes paid for in full sence 1920ish..lol

lazs2 · « **Reply #71 on:** June 23, 2007, 09:48:34 AM »

the tax for a sawed off shotgun (below 18") is $5 if you pass all the other paperwork. Weaver claimed that he measured well... essentialy... a $5 OR 3/8" mistake cost his family their lives.

Does anyone here feel safer and better that $5 tax dodge or a 17" shotgun are worth killing a family over? Does that seem like a just way for a government to act?

lazs

storch · « **Reply #72 on:** June 23, 2007, 10:28:54 AM »

the real crime at ruby ridge was the way the the clinton administration handled the aftermath. the lon horiuchi sniper that killed vicki weaver was actually promoted after the incident.

Captain Virgil Hilts · « **Reply #73 on:** June 23, 2007, 12:42:50 PM »

Storch, unless my memory fails me, Ruby Ridge happened during the Bush I administration, although possibly the investigations may not have ended until after Clinton was sworn in.

Anyone else notice the Browns were charged with refusing to pay taxes on MILLIONS$ and trying to hide evidence of even more income? Sounds more like greed than principle to me. And again, I think the tax situation in this country is absolutely outrageous and intolerable.

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #74 on:** June 23, 2007, 12:47:05 PM »

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Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
Storch, unless my memory fails me, Ruby Ridge happened during the Bush I administration, although possibly the investigations may not have ended until after Clinton was sworn in.

Anyone else notice the Browns were charged with refusing to pay taxes on MILLIONS$ and trying to hide evidence of even more income? Sounds more like greed than principle to me. And again, I think the tax situation in this country is absolutely outrageous and intolerable.

You yourself have said that it is greed that makes this country great.