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« Reply #30 on: June 20, 2007, 07:58:34 AM »
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Bombers  may not have won the war, but they were a hugely significant part of it. Yet the AH community for the most part has been treating bombers like second rate citizens for the last couple years.


Amen to that.
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« Reply #31 on: June 20, 2007, 08:22:23 AM »
Best solution to the problem is to shoot the buffs down. If ya can't do that then the defenders deserve to lose their FH's.

Requires no coding at all.

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« Reply #32 on: June 20, 2007, 08:26:23 AM »
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Best solution to the problem is to shoot the buffs down. If ya can't do that then the defenders deserve to lose their FH's.

Requires no coding at all.


Then bombers need a special dot on the radar screen so we can figure out which cons to go after first.
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« Reply #33 on: June 20, 2007, 08:29:44 AM »
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Then bombers need a special dot on the radar screen so we can figure out which cons to go after first.


Poor "dots" :D

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« Reply #34 on: June 20, 2007, 08:34:17 AM »
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Poor "dots" :D


:D  Hows it going Nilsen, hope it's going well.
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« Reply #35 on: June 20, 2007, 08:47:10 AM »
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:D  Hows it going Nilsen, hope it's going well.


Im doing great thx.. Plucking bombers and and fighters out of the cartoon air as often as i can. Every now and then some rook or bish gets lucky and feed me some bullets, but thats so rare these days that i almost welcome it ;)

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« Reply #36 on: June 20, 2007, 08:49:59 AM »
I'm doing well. :D  I always look to see if 999000 is on before going after bombers, he's the only Bomber pilot I really fear.
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« Reply #37 on: June 20, 2007, 08:57:06 AM »
Well... NKL5 can be rather deadly when he buzzes around up high in his Lanc.

He has gotten lucky with me :D

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« Reply #38 on: June 20, 2007, 09:45:09 AM »
An even better idea:

Gice us a .ExplodeBuff command.  If inough people vote your buffs blow up.

Muahahahahahaha :rofl
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« Reply #39 on: June 20, 2007, 10:11:42 AM »
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The solution has been done before, you just have  to look to what AW did. They made a "Fightertown" arena just for the Furballers and it worked. An FT in the main MA's never worked. But a FT arena did, If you only had a few minutes to play it was a great place to look for a fight.


The Furballers set-up their little rules about 1 on 1's,, HO's etc., etc. All was good with the world, you had FT for furballing and the MA's to play war.

There was one downside to the FT arena.... The FT Arena backfired on the Furballers. For all their posting in the Aw forums it turned out that "furballers" was very few in numbers. And when they started B...ing about toolsheders killing a good furball in the MA, it was pointed out that they can go play in FT if they don't like it.

For the most part I do not remember lots of toolsheder vs furballers food fights in AW, other than the one time they tried to make a "FT island" in the Big Pac arena. And that went away once FT island went away.

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« Reply #40 on: June 20, 2007, 10:42:51 AM »
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The solution has been done before, you just have  to look to what AW did. They made a "Fightertown" arena just for the Furballers and it worked. An FT in the main MA's never worked. But a FT arena did, If you only had a few minutes to play it was a great place to look for a fight.


The Furballers set-up their little rules about 1 on 1's,, HO's etc., etc. All was good with the world, you had FT for furballing and the MA's to play war.

There was one downside to the FT arena.... The FT Arena backfired on the Furballers. For all their posting in the Aw forums it turned out that "furballers" was very few in numbers. And when they started B...ing about toolsheders killing a good furball in the MA, it was pointed out that they can go play in FT if they don't like it.

For the most part I do not remember lots of toolsheder vs furballers food fights in AW, other than the one time they tried to make a "FT island" in the Big Pac arena. And that went away once FT island went away.

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I agree, we need the old DA back ;)  Sometimes I log in with 20 minutes of play time.  I hate spending it heading to a vulched field or chasing some guy in p47 that droped his load on an ack gun and ran home.
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« Reply #41 on: June 20, 2007, 11:23:41 AM »
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The vast majority of bomber pilots are not griefers, they are just trying to have some fun while doing their bit for the war effort.  But these accusations have been flying around so much for the last 2 years that I never hit a target at a enemy field anymore. I may hit his city, or smack a strat object. But I'm tired of getting yelled at just because I felt like a bomber sortie and someone wanted (insert field target) up after the capture. EXCUSE ME, pardon me for living even.


Agreed but, What we see in reality is numnutzes killing all the fighter hangers while leaving the VH up and no attempt to de-ack, the capture fails for obvious reasons. Even if they do drop the vh and capture the base it is now indefensible unless you are going to fly cover from an adjacent base. I see little of this and what happens? The base get recaptured by the other side.

I have no problems with the win-the-war crowd. A newly captured base is a good place to find fights. I will even assist in a capture but if I see it run by the numnutzes will go elsewhere.

What I have seen is calls to stop the furball on Country channel and seen the bomber boys come in and do just that. Most bomber pilots are  not griefers but there are enough of them to be a problem.

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« Reply #42 on: June 20, 2007, 11:45:15 AM »
Coming soon, the 3rd Reich of superior organized toolsheders,  will castrate all the inferior punks hipies species of furballers dump them in concentration camps and send Michael jackson to babysitt them

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« Reply #43 on: June 20, 2007, 12:45:57 PM »
Go back to the early system of strat and capture.

Back when things were relatively simple, both bombers and fighters had important roles to play. Captures were do-able by small groups and a small group could re-capture in short order.

It made for lots of fun for everyone.

The more BS we've added the more we've divided the player group.

Those of you that were here probably remember how fast and furious the fighting was in the Beta. We need to get back to that.

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« Reply #44 on: June 20, 2007, 06:39:44 PM »
This is why I fly the Yak9-T. I can furball, boom & zoom, fight anything 1 vs 1 and have a reasonable chance with appropriate tactics, and most pertinent to this thread - take out an entire buff formation with one pass (if I'm lucky).

My best K/D ratio was in a Yak9-T (primarily)


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