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« on: June 21, 2007, 06:23:37 AM »
My father was in this battle abord the USS McKee DD-575 shelling the beaches for the landing party.

Did you know that Sgt. Bob Keeshan played a big roll in this campain, We all knew Sgt. Keeshan as Captain Kangaroo.





TOKYO - Japan has returned to using the prewar name for the island of Iwo Jima — site of one of World War II's most horrific battles — at the urging of its original inhabitants, who want to reclaim an identity they say has been hijacked by high-profile movies like Clint Eastwood's "Letters from Iwo Jima."
The new name, Iwo To, was adopted Monday by the Japanese Geographical Survey Institute in consultation with Japan's coast guard.
Surviving islanders evacuated during the war praised the move, but others said it cheapens the memory of a brutal campaign that today is inextricably linked to the words Iwo Jima.
Back in 1945, the small, volcanic island was the vortex of the fierce World War II battle immortalized by the famous photograph by Joe Rosenthal of The Associated Press showing Marines raising the American flag on the islet's Mount Suribachi.
Retired Marine Maj. Gen. Fred Haynes, who was a 24-year-old captain in the regiment that raised the flag on Mount Suribachi, was surprised and upset by the news.
"Frankly, I don't like it. That name is so much a part of our tradition, our legacy," said Haynes
Haynes, 87, heads the Combat Veterans of Iwo Jima, a group of about 600 veterans that travels to the island every year for a reunion. He is working on a book about the battle called "We Walk by Faith: The Story of Combat Team 28 and the Battle of Iwo Jima." He doesn't plan to change the name.
"It was Iwo Jima to us when we took it," said Haynes. "We'll recognize whatever the Japanese want to call it but we'll stick to Iwo Jima."
Before the war, the isolated spit of land was called Iwo To — pronounced "ee-woh-toh" — by the 1,000 or so people who lived there. In Japanese, that name looks and means the same as Iwo Jima — Sulfur Island — but it has a different sound.
The civilians were evacuated in 1944 as U.S. forces advanced across the Pacific. Some Japanese navy officers who moved in to fortify the island mistakenly called it Iwo Jima, and the name stuck. After the war, civilians weren't allowed to return and the island was put to exclusive military use by both the U.S. and Japan, cementing its identity.
Locals were never happy the name Iwo Jima took root. But the last straw came this year with the release of Eastwood's "Letters from Iwo Jima" and "Flags of Our Fathers," war films that only reinforced the misnomer.
In March, Ogasawara, the municipality that administers Iwo To and neighboring islands, responded by adopting a resolution making Iwo To the official name. Ogasawara residents and descendants of Iwo To evacuees petitioned the central government to follow suit.
"Though we're happy for Iwo To, which has been forgotten by history, the islanders are extremely grieved every time they hear Iwo To referred to as Iwo Jima," the local Ogasawara newspaper quoted the resolution as saying of the Eastwood movies.
The government agreed; an official map with the new name will be released on Sept. 1.
Still, Iwo Jima is the only name that clicks with most Japanese who aren't from the remote island chain, some 700 miles southeast of Tokyo in the Pacific Ocean.
Even some Japanese war veterans, like 84-year-old Kiyoshi Endo, who heads an association commemorating soldiers killed in the battle, feel uncomfortable about the switch.
"Naval maps have long used the name Iwo Jima," Japan's Sankei newspaper quoted Endo as saying. "We should respect that history."
Today Iwo To's only inhabitants are about 400 Japanese soldiers.
The 1945 battle for Iwo Jima pitted some 100,000 U.S. troops against 22,000 Japanese deeply dug into a labyrinth of tunnels and trenches. Nearly 7,000 Americans were killed capturing the island, and fewer than 1,000 of the Japanese survived.
The Americans occupied the island after the war, and returned it to Japanese jurisdiction in 1968. The U.S. Navy still uses an airstrip on the island to train pilots who operate from aircraft carriers.
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« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2007, 06:48:40 AM »
Sgt Shultz was portrayed by John Banner  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Banner
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« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2007, 06:54:31 AM »
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Sgt Shultz was portrayed by John Banner  



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« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2007, 07:30:39 AM »
The Captain Kangaroo story is a myth.

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« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2007, 08:28:59 AM »
You Would Never Have Guessed
Captain Kangaroo passed away on January 23, 2004, as age 76 , which is odd, because he always looked to be 76. (DOB: 6/27/27) His death reminds us of the following story:
Some people have been a bit offended that the actor, Lee Marvin, is buried in a grave alongside 3- and 4-star generals at Arlington National Cemetery . His marker gives his name, rank (PVT) and service (USMC). Nothing else. Here's a guy who was only a famous movie star who served his time, why the heck does he rate burial with these guys? Well, following is the amazing answer:
I always liked Lee Marvin, but didn't know the extent of his Corps experiences.

In a time when many Hollywood stars served their country in the armed forces often in rear echelon posts where they were carefully protected, only to be trotted out to perform for the cameras in war bond promotions, Lee Marvin was a genuine hero. He won the Navy Cross at Iwo Jima. There is only one higher Naval award... the Medal Of Honor!

If that is a surprising comment on the true character of the man, he credits his sergeant with an even greater show of bravery.
Dialog from "The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson": His guest was Lee Marvin. Johnny said, "Lee, I'll bet a lot of people are unaware that you were a Marine in the initial landing at Iwo Jima ...and that during the course of that action you earned the Navy Cross and were severely wounded."

"Yeah, yeah... I got shot square in the bottom and they gave me the Cross for securing a hot spot about halfway up Suribachi. Bad thing about getting shot up on a mountain is guys getting' shot hauling you down. But,Johnny, at Iwo I served under the bravest man I ever knew... We both got the Cross the same day, but what he did for his Cross made mine look cheap in comparison. That dumb guy actually stood up on Red beach and directed his troops to move forward and get the hell off the beach. Bullets flying by, with mortar rounds landing everywhere and he stood there as the main target of gunfire so that he could get his men to safety. He did this on more than one occasion because his men's safety was more important than his own life.

That Sergeant and I have been lifelong friends. When they brought me off Suribachi we passed the Sergeant and he lit a smoke and passed it to me, lying on my belly on the litter and said, "Where'd they get you Lee?" "Well Bob... if you make it home before me, tell Mom to sell the outhouse!"

Johnny, I'm not lying, Sergeant Keeshan was the bravest man I ever knew.
The Sergeant's name is Bob Keeshan. You and the world know him as Captain Kangaroo."

On another note, there was this wimpy little man (who just passed away) on PBS, gentle and quiet. Mr. Rogers is another of those you would least suspect of being anything but what he now portrays to our youth. But Mr. Rogers was a U.S. Navy Seal, combat-proven in Vietnam with over twenty-five confirmed kills to his name. He wore a long-sleeved sweater on TV, to cover the many tattoos on his forearm and biceps. He was a master in small arms and hand-to-hand combat, able to disarm or kill in a heartbeat

After the war Mr. Rogers became an ordained Presbyterian minister and therefore a pacifist. Vowing to never harm another human and also dedicating the rest of his life to trying to help lead children on the right path in life. He hid away the tattoos and his past life and won our hearts with his quiet wit and charm.

America's real heroes don't flaunt what they did; they quietly go about their day-to-day lives, doing what they do best They earned our respect and the freedoms that we all enjoy.
Look around and see if you can find one of those heroes in your midst.
Often, they are the ones you'd least suspect, but would most like to have on your side if anything ever happened

Take the time to thank anyone that has fought for our freedom. With encouragement they could be the next Captain Kangaroo or Mr.Rogers
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« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2007, 08:37:19 AM »
HGPappy, you're really barking up the wrong tree here with Captain Kangaroo, and Mr Rogers.  No offense.

Of course Mr Keeshan should be saluted for his service. However his service did not include Iwo jima or combat. Mr Rogers......... Never served.

Don't trivialize the service of real hero's by adding the names of those to the list that didn't serve.
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« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2007, 08:38:48 AM »
HGPappy, Thanks for writing that reply...

It kept me from having to do it myself...

ALSO
Gene Hackman
Charlton Heston
Brian Keith
Steve McQueen
George Peppard
George C Scott
Burt Reynolds
Ken Norton
Leon Spinks
Ed McMahon
Hugh Brannum> Mr GreenJeans too

God bless my brothers, wherever they are..
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« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2007, 09:24:09 AM »
You forgot Charles Bronson

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« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2007, 11:17:16 AM »
:huh
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« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2007, 12:29:00 PM »
snopes...  never let facts cloud your opinions or beliefs...

http://www.snopes.com/military/marvin.asp

http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/tv/mrrogers.asp
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« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2007, 02:05:47 PM »
"You forgot Charles Bronson"


  And Chuck Norris too you khuckle heads.

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« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2007, 02:07:01 PM »
Who is Chuck Norris???:D

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« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2007, 02:32:54 PM »
I saw that Ernest Borgnine use to drive PT boats  :D

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« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2007, 03:48:26 PM »
is it spelt Audee murphy? the actor that was a real war hero in italy and N.A?
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« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2007, 03:48:34 PM »
Eddie Albert - World War II --

Then World War II broke and Albert signed up. Albert served as an officer in the navy during World War II, seeing combat in the Pacific Theater. In 1943 during the fighting of the Japanese on Tarawa he rescued 70 wounded Marines, earning him a Bronze Star for his heroic bravery.