Author Topic: What's with all the kills in the IL2 lately? (Read 1638 times)

wooley · « **Reply #15 on:** June 24, 2007, 06:27:13 PM »

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Originally posted by Nilsen
...but far too many use it as a HO tank.

Nilsen, if I'm in an IL2, I'm not going to outrun you and I'm not going to out-turn you. But almost certainly I'll out-gun you and in all probability absorb more damage. Thus, the ho becomes a valid tactic. 9 times out of 10, the IL2 will win.

If you're in a fighter and get shot in the face by an IL2, you're the pilot that made a bad choice. The other guy was flying to his aircraft's strengths.

E25280 · « **Reply #16 on:** June 24, 2007, 07:51:34 PM »

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Originally posted by Nilsen
Ive noticed alot of IL2 pilots too. Some of them are really good in it, but far too many use it as a HO tank.

Is there a problem with that?

Citabria · « **Reply #17 on:** June 24, 2007, 09:16:25 PM »

disable external views in il2 and watch most of these L337 sturmovikdweebskovich's get shot down never seeing what hit them and miss all there 90 degree below the nose deflection shots.

halcyon · « **Reply #18 on:** June 24, 2007, 09:29:52 PM »

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Originally posted by Furball
Jaxxo can land?

Jaxxo can fly?

Stoney74 · « **Reply #19 on:** June 25, 2007, 01:28:49 AM »

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Originally posted by wooley
...Thus, the ho becomes a valid tactic... If you're in a fighter and get shot in the face by an IL2, you're the pilot that made a bad choice. The other guy was flying to his aircraft's strengths.

So, by this reasoning, if you're in a dual against a plane with superior firepower, just point the nose and shoot? I relish dropping in behind IL-2's that are flying flak towers intent on doing nothing but shooting people in the face. The IL-2 is tailor made for forcing overshoots as its takes lots of punishment and can deal out a heavy snapshot after the bad guy flashes by. Running around HO-ing folks in it is not "flying it to its strengths". Anybody can up a jousting machine. Not many can actually "fly" them and get kills.

Larry · « **Reply #20 on:** June 25, 2007, 01:52:50 AM »

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Originally posted by Stoney74
So, by this reasoning, if you're in a dual against a plane with superior firepower, just point the nose and shoot? I relish dropping in behind IL-2's that are flying flak towers intent on doing nothing but shooting people in the face. The IL-2 is tailor made for forcing overshoots as its takes lots of punishment and can deal out a heavy snapshot after the bad guy flashes by. Running around HO-ing folks in it is not "flying it to its strengths". Anybody can up a jousting machine. Not many can actually "fly" them and get kills.

When FHs are down and you roll a IL2 thats what you do is HO. It is not a fighter it is a bomber/attcker. He wasnt talking about geting in a duel with a fighter and just going for HOs. He was talking about uping from a caped base with a sea of red around you and HOing the ones that try. You cant "fly" an Il2. Its slow and cant turn for ****. Its "strenghts" are heavy armor and great cannons. So yes HOing is "flying it to its strengths" when you take and give more dammage.

hubsonfire · « **Reply #21 on:** June 25, 2007, 02:11:05 AM »

Agreed. If you're flying an Il-2 in the MAs, you're either eccentric (like Widewing), or you're trying to send as many hordemonkey vulchtards to the tower as is possible in the time it takes them to finally realize you're wheels up and kill you (like most of the rest of us).

You could also be trying to kill GVs, but there's no real secret to flying straight and shooting, or pressing B and pulling up.

toonces3 · « **Reply #22 on:** June 25, 2007, 10:33:00 AM »

If I hadn't seen the kills landed with my own eyes, I'd have called you all a bunch of liars and scoundrels to boot. I just can't believe anyone has ever landed an air-air kill in that death trap.

Maybe I just upped it after a night of flying the Spit 16 and the shock was too abrupt. Maybe I had too much gas, too much ord. I dunno. But hats off to you guys landing kills man.

I think, though, I'll stick with the Jug for now.

chaingun · « **Reply #23 on:** June 25, 2007, 10:37:11 AM »

i would pawn you guys, in il2

try me ~~most people blow it off as a ez kill, then you find yourself in tower saying wtf?~~

chaingun · « **Reply #24 on:** June 25, 2007, 10:40:45 AM »

oh by the way, most il2 kills air to air ive landed is 7, yes air to air not ho to air, 90% of the time i have a gunner w/ me, VILKAS is my gunner ask him or my fellow countryman, f3 is not for me either by the way

Yknurd · « **Reply #25 on:** June 25, 2007, 12:44:18 PM »

How funny!

I was reading this post and wondering who was the arrogant little person who always talked about owning everyone in the IL2.

At the time his name escaped me.

bj229r · « **Reply #26 on:** June 25, 2007, 12:50:08 PM »

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Originally posted by Yknurd
How funny!

I was reading this post and wondering who was the arrogant little person who always talked about owning everyone in the IL2.

At the time his name escaped me.

He's not at all arrogant about it, but Ghi is by far the best:aok

(When I see an IL2 in area, I keep an eye on it at all times, as they turn 180 quick as you can blink your eyes, and a spray shot from 900 yards only needs ONE ping to put you in tower)

Widewing · « **Reply #27 on:** June 25, 2007, 06:37:09 PM »

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Originally posted by toonces3
If I hadn't seen the kills landed with my own eyes, I'd have called you all a bunch of liars and scoundrels to boot. I just can't believe anyone has ever landed an air-air kill in that death trap.

Landed 11 kills last night. 6 GVs, 4 fighters and a B-24. No rearms....

Then landed 5 more, and finally 4 more. Totaled 20 kills in 3 sorties, 4 assists, no losses. About equally divided between aircraft and vehicles. Defending A7 on the NDIsles map. Most kills resulted from shooting an enemy off of a friendly fighter's six, or beating them on the reverse off the merge. You almost always start out at a tactical disadvantage. So, you manage your E and work at equalizing E states. Under that circumstance, the IL-2 is very dangerous.

The IL-2 is not a death trap, but it does require some thought and planning. Maybe next week, I'll fly the SBD instead.

My regards,

Widewing

Solar10 · « **Reply #28 on:** June 25, 2007, 06:48:08 PM »

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Originally posted by Widewing
Landed 11 kills last night. 6 GVs, 4 fighters and a B-24. No rearms....

Then landed 5 more, and finally 4 more. Totaled 20 kills in 3 sorties, 4 assists, no losses. About equally divided between aircraft and vehicles. Defending A7 on the NDIsles map. Most kills resulted from shooting an enemy off of a friendly fighter's six, or beating them on the reverse off the merge. You almost always start out at a tactical disadvantage. So, you manage your E and work at equalizing E states. Under that circumstance, the IL-2 is very dangerous.

The IL-2 is not a death trap, but it does require some thought and planning. Maybe next week, I'll fly the SBD instead.

My regards,

Widewing

Widewing, please fly a goon and give us all a chance.

jaxxo · « **Reply #29 on:** June 25, 2007, 11:33:48 PM »

aww u bastges

I aer the bset! that othr dude is GhiTarded

def in my top 5 fav planes...take the exterior view away and give me someone willing to gun in that peashooter

would def like to see some more variants though