Originally posted by BBBB
Show me the buffer in that video? The police officer was not doing her job. She was allowing the event to spill out into the street. You can't say some ppl can walk down this sidewalk while others can not. The gay party is in the park. That street they were on was about a mile from the party. Those guys were across the street from the entry area to the park. They were not hurting anyone.
I find it hard sometimes to read the stuff you write. You make no sense sometimes, it seems more the ramblings of a spoiled child, than that of an ex-Marine.
-Spot
Buffer?, I used my ears, did you hear "criminal trespass" mentioned? personally I'd have gone with disturbing the peace of another (415PC), but trespass (603PC) works.
The permit holder asked those people to leave, not the police.. which is 100% legal under laws of citizens arrest like Calif 837PC. Citizens have the same arrest powers as a police officer EXCEPT; the police can arrest based on reasonable cause (836.3PC) a felony has occurred, a citizen must know a felony has occurred. It's also a felony for the police to refuse a citizens arrest.
A permit to rally usually includes a path & destination, just because they were mostly at the park doesn't mean the path is abandon to anyone who wants to shout inflammatory opinions bringing up the rear...
Police officers / depts / cities are experienced at dealing with opinion A versus opinion B, "the rules" re: permits / counter demonstrations / when & where people can gather / boundaries/ safety concerns / dept manpower and all that good poop has been shaped by countless lawsuits over the years.... that's all that went on there, nothing else.
A reason behind requiring permits to gather in large groups, is so that the local .gov can do exactly what they did, keep the opinionated far enough apart so that everyone can spew whatever verbal vomit they want and nobody gets hurt... it's freakn common sense.
