Originally posted by Vad
Ok, much better.
Now let's agree on how many counterrevolutionaries were shot.
I don't know that numbers.
Even if all of that almost 3 millions. It's much less than 60 millions.
You want to say that in the USA nobody died during 1930-1953?
Yes, ied a lot. 27 millions were killed in WW2. But we are talking about deaths Stalin was responcible for.
I'm more expert than any of that "experts" you talked to. I was living in that country. If we would lose 60 millions plus 27 millions in WW2 having only 164 millions total I would notice that.
And there is no other sources of historical data but documents and archives. Anything else are just dreams, speculations, politics and propaganda. I don't care in what your 'experts' believe, I believe only in documents and my own eyes.
Type '3778234' (we don't use dots in numbers) in Google, you will get a lot of references in Russian. All of them are about the subject we are discussing. It will be much more "sources" than you have provided.
I googled 3778234 as you suggested. Thanks for that. If anything, if I am reading the translations correctly, it backs up my point of view. Thank you.
I was watching a T.V. show where they walked up to a random person in the street here in the U.S. and asked them what day did the 911 World Trade Center attack happen on. Amazingly to me, MANY of them could not come up with Sept. eleventh. (9/11)
There were in the U.S. when it happened. They are "from" here. They should know more than somebody not from the U.S. by your line of thinking.
My point is this. Just because you live there, doesn't mean you are not an idiot, or have a clue what you are talking about. The average person is a moron.
Now give me something SCHOLARLY. Not a bunch of idiots on forums debating. Give me published data. Give me books written. Cite sources. Show me PROOF, not some weak links to BBS's full of average idiots spouting out opinions on subjects they really have no idea about.
I asked you to explain why you seem to be better qualified than the people I cited.
Your reply was
I'm more expert than any of that "experts" you talked to. I was living in that country. If we would lose 60 millions plus 27 millions in WW2 having only 164 millions total I would notice that.
Many of my sources are not only Russian, but are experts in this field, which obviously you are not.
By the way, the 60 million figure was over a period of time. Do I HAVE to explain how to read a simple graph to you?
The reply "because I lived there and I would have noticed" is not only a horribly reply, but as I showed with the 911 anecdote, does not make me believe you have the slightest clue what you are talking about. "Because I said so" is not a response that will win a round during a debate.
Actually, the more I read from you and Boroda, the more obvious it is to me just how little you know.
I wanted a scholarly debate. Instead it is like I am debating a child. If I wanted to debate an idiot, I can go to any bar around here, bring up politics, and get my fill of people who don't have the slightest clue what they are talking about.
IF you are able (I would say willing but nothing you have posted shows me you have the slightest ability to hold up your end of the argument so I will go with "able") to debate this topic in a scholarly mannor, I would be happy to continue.
In order to do so you must cite sources. Give me quotes. Names. Backgrounds. Credentials. Dates. Publishers. Journals.
Back up your point of view with empirical data.
So far you have done nothing of the sort.
