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Offline 4deck

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« Reply #45 on: June 28, 2007, 12:16:56 AM »
Glad you liked it.
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Forgot who said this while trying to take a base, but the quote goes like this. "I cant help you with ack, Im not in attack mode" This is with only 2 ack up in the town while troops were there, waiting. The rest of the town was down.

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« Reply #46 on: June 28, 2007, 03:16:39 AM »
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Here you go Citabria

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7516705476148472744&hl=en

This will scare the S**T out of you, if your not already

Dont worry though, 2012 is coming


Interesting stuff.
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« Reply #47 on: June 28, 2007, 05:33:32 AM »
On original topic: IMO it is interesting that governments have such a low morale and respect for intelligence of its citizens as to claim that such small incidents would be the reason for huge years lasting aggressions. Or would we buy it? "Sure chief, they farted in your general direction -lets give 'em hell and wipe them off the earth. Oh, you got the tools ready, thats cool..."

Considering the Polish invasion and the incident of Mainila the international politics obviously require at least some kind of, even pathetic, reason to initiate aggressions that are usually planned years beforehand. Rather ridiculous actually... :p

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« Reply #48 on: June 28, 2007, 12:57:39 PM »
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On original topic: IMO it is interesting that governments have such a low morale and respect for intelligence of its citizens as to claim that such small incidents would be the reason for huge years lasting aggressions. Or would we buy it?


Why would we buy such stories from our governments? Because we have no way of knowing that we are being lied to in many cases. We are told what they want us to hear and we become outraged and grab our torches and pitchforks screaming for justice to be done.

In todays world of the internet, things are becoming harder for the government to hide.
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« Reply #49 on: June 28, 2007, 01:03:13 PM »
It's cool to bash ANYone with a pocket protector:aok
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« Reply #50 on: June 28, 2007, 07:08:50 PM »
most of these operations seem to be executed by officials with a chronic case of short sightedness.

where are they now?
what did they accomplish?

most of them are either dead or disgraced and removed from power.

LBJ was a prime example
he had a long history of subversive tactics against virtually everyone.
his long time mistress Madeleine Duncan Brown on her deathbed laid out how he had JFK assasinated in a purely political power murder.
the USS Liberty  flase flag operation he willingly sacrificed his own people in an attempt at a mideast war.
the gulf of tonkin was just the public reasoning he desired to justify open war in vietnam.

motives consistent with the desire for power and control and conflict but it all ended in regret and disolussion for him.

he ended his term in disgrace publically rejecting any bids for re-ellection.

Some leaders are very concerned with the legacy they leave behind. others desire to obtain ever greater power and control at great costs to themselves and all around them
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« Reply #51 on: June 28, 2007, 11:34:44 PM »
I like the historical narative in the terrorstorm video but some of the info in this is misleading like the info on iran there are mitigating factors if you look any of it up on wikepedia mosedeq disolved the iranian parliament among other things that resulted in his exile beyond the US/british medeling.

also I think this alex jones guy is actually a very hardcore conspiracy theorist which makes his observations compelling but also suspect at the same time.
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« Reply #52 on: June 28, 2007, 11:53:10 PM »
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LBJ was a prime example


salamander wangled himself a Silver Star for absolutely NOTHING, as an observer on the only combat mission he ever went on---he was thinking of his future political career. Even wore the Star as president

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/johnson.silver.star/story/storypage.html
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« Reply #53 on: June 29, 2007, 12:22:13 AM »
Our media is controlled by the govenrment...





We believe and trust our media.....




Too see wat is going on in this country one must watch the news from another country to see wat truly disgusting and awful things the government does.


That is all.
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« Reply #54 on: June 29, 2007, 12:55:11 AM »
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he had a long history of subversive tactics against virtually everyone.


I'd heard that about LBJ, that was one man you didn't want to cross.

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his long time mistress Madeleine Duncan Brown on her deathbed laid out how he had JFK assasinated in a purely political power murder.


I hadn't heard that. Any source for it?

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the USS Liberty flase flag operation he willingly sacrificed his own people in an attempt at a mideast war.
the gulf of tonkin was just the public reasoning he desired to justify open war in vietnam.


Looking back, he sure seems like a bloodthirsty type. Any ideas on why he was so hellbent on getting the US in another war?
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« Reply #55 on: June 29, 2007, 09:04:02 AM »
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Forgot who said this while trying to take a base, but the quote goes like this. "I cant help you with ack, Im not in attack mode" This is with only 2 ack up in the town while troops were there, waiting. The rest of the town was down.

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« Reply #56 on: June 29, 2007, 09:32:49 AM »
Some of Johnson's critics, and even some of his supporters, laughingly referred to him as "Landslide Lyndon" after some key voting districts in Texas went for he and JFK at the last moment during the election of 1960.  Rumors flew around that zealous Johnson supporters, who controlled the voting apparatus in those districts, had counted the votes of deceased voters who were still, mysteriously, on the voting lists.

Some of Nixon's people urged him to fight the election results in court, given the rumors ciirculating about voter fraud in Chicago and Texas.  But to Nixon's credit, he chose not to put the country through such a contentious ordeal.
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« Reply #57 on: June 29, 2007, 10:59:44 AM »
you mean Nixon did not want all the "hanging chads" counted?
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