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« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2007, 03:34:29 PM »
This is my all time favorite

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2007/100407_b_Secret.htm

And heres a link to vids.

Some take with a grain of salt, I dont think wearing aluminum foil is going to do anything for my fashion statement. If yuo dont believe whats out there then so be it. Dont mock me, for trying to stay informed. Censorship isnt here. Yet.
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« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2007, 04:01:39 PM »
one word, no rudeness or mockery intended: tooled
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« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2007, 04:06:33 PM »
don't take this personal guys keep your state of mind on an academic level in the sense of reading a dictionary like say wikepedia that openly explains multiple points of view and theories even outlandish ones.

understand theories of conspiracy or science are merely a hypothesis to explain an event or reaction and are not in themselves anything more than an attempt by their creators to understand anything under the sun that is not yet fully explainable.
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« Reply #18 on: June 29, 2007, 04:43:58 PM »
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Originally posted by 4deck
This is my all time favorite

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2007/100407_b_Secret.htm

And heres a link to vids.

Some take with a grain of salt, I dont think wearing aluminum foil is going to do anything for my fashion statement. If yuo dont believe whats out there then so be it. Dont mock me, for trying to stay informed. Censorship isnt here. Yet.


this 1987 video in my opinion is very informative and interesting.

it seems quite authentic  and done by true historians and it is intended as a warning and anyone watching it will see that it is not in the realm of hypothesis or theory but results and conclussions from previously proven events.

it is not disputed that there was 2.3 trillion dollars reported missing on 9/10/2001 from the defense cofers and no one knows where its at.

and it is my opinion that power without accountability will undermine any democracy. they are in direct conflict with eachother and the consitution will be an offensive word that threatens this unchecked power.

the government operates in heavy secrecy under the banner of security and safety for its citizens.

this is unconstitutional and is directly responsible for the fact that the US has been involved in constant warefare since ww2.

if it is desired to strive for the ideals set by the founders of this nation then the government must abolish its covert military nature and accept the burden of responsibility to its citizens for its actions.
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« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2007, 06:20:39 PM »
too bad fester ... never took you for a conspiracy kook

has any seen those moon rocks lately?
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« Reply #20 on: June 29, 2007, 06:34:49 PM »
So,,,getting to the bottom, if you take a couple of 737's that are juiced up and slam them into those towers (in front of a whole city), would the towers perhaps not fall?
After all they did, and to th surprize of Bin Laden who said he had not expected that the effect would have been that great.

Airliners slammed into the towers, and later on the structures collapsed. That is known.
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« Reply #21 on: June 29, 2007, 06:55:19 PM »
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Whats up with the rudeness.

 


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« Reply #22 on: June 29, 2007, 07:02:06 PM »
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too bad fester ... never took you for a conspiracy kook

has any seen those moon rocks lately?


wow I've known you a long time eagler.
thanks for the insult. always thought fondly of you every time I fought with and against ya online and always said hello when I saw ya.


as I have stated in this thread and the other I started on these touchy subjects I find all the theories to only be individuals attempts to understand events they can not fully explain in a way that suits their beliefs politically or scientifically or even emotionally.

The only thing I present as fact is accepted records of history that are not in dispute. the videos I enjoyed are the ones that contain historical accounts of past events that lead me to look into these historical events for myself due to the slant with which they were presented in most of them (the 1987 video is an exception. this is a pbs documentary and its validity is not suspect)

The arguments for 9/11 while compelling when first seen are on the whole generated by outsiders from the structural engineering community and therefore can not be accepted as truely expert opinions. not a single structural engineer supports the idea that these buildings would not fall after the beatings they sustained.
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« Reply #23 on: June 29, 2007, 07:16:10 PM »
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So,,,getting to the bottom, if you take a couple of 737's that are juiced up and slam them into those towers (in front of a whole city), would the towers perhaps not fall?
After all they did, and to th surprize of Bin Laden who said he had not expected that the effect would have been that great.

Airliners slammed into the towers, and later on the structures collapsed. That is known.


767's

building 7 angus was what i was refering to as in debate as the National Institute of Standards and Technology is still investigating building 7 and are looking into the use of explosives. They did not investigate this building until last as it was not a source of loss of life and only resulted in property damage and loss.

The owner of this building claimed that the building was demolished and never retracted this statement
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« Reply #24 on: June 29, 2007, 07:50:07 PM »
Why is it that the conspiracy theorists can't seem to find one single participant to verify even one part of their story?
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« Reply #25 on: June 29, 2007, 07:53:26 PM »
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The owner of this building claimed that the building was demolished and never retracted this statement


Was he a participant?
Did he take part of the planning?
Is he merely guessing at what happened?
Where is the demolition team hired for the job?
Etc., Etc., Etc.,?
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« Reply #26 on: June 29, 2007, 08:52:45 PM »
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as I have stated in this thread and the other I started on these touchy subjects I find all the theories to only be individuals attempts to understand events they can not fully explain in a way that suits their beliefs politically or scientifically or even emotionally.

 


But mankind has done this throughout history

Used to be they couldnt understand the sun moving across the sky to they applies theories which were later largely accepted as fact that the God Mercury traveled across the sky dragging the sun in a flaming chariot.

Whenever there has been somethign that people havent understood they more often then not have applied some sort of logic to explain, or blame it on  to themselves in a way they can accept.
Reguardless of what the truth is.

And often, Cannot accept the truth merly because they dont like what the truth is.

Often for these people. Nothing bad can just happen. There has to be a reason for everything.

Secret societies that run the world is just plain absurd.
Not because I dont like it do I think that.

But the one thing thats held true over and over again both in my experience and throughout history is. So long as more then one person knows something. Nothing remains a secret.
and the more people that know something. The less time it remains a secret.

The way I see it. The only way a 9/11 conspiricy works is to paint a theory of my own.

Lets run with the missing money shall we. As that ties in nicely.
CIA job (this works because if all the cloak and daggar stories associated with them)

Operatives in the CIA made off with the money. To cover their tracks they conspired the entire 9/11 event to remove any evidence.

Top teir members of the operation concluded that as I have said. The less people that know the more likely it is to remain a secret.
They have the operatives involved get on planes in an order to distance themselves from the scene.
Not knowing they were being set up as the Hijackers.
Yes the highjackers were in reality. CIA operatives
The highjacking. or so the operatives thought was to take place in order to distract attention away from the missing money.
the highjackers thought they were to escape to cuba where they werte to meet with Castro under a secret deal
In reality. The planes were taken over by remote control wresting control away from the pilots. Their radios were then rendered useless and dummy transmissions were made to the tower.
and the planes were remotely controled and guided by way of a homing device into their targets at specific locations both in the WTC and pentagon where other operatives involved in the robberly were at the time of the impacts.
The plane that went dont in Pennsy wa to be an insurace policy in case something went wrong on the other 3 planes.
But the plan came off without a hitch and the 4th plane wasnt needed so it was guided by remote control into the ground.

Thus by the crashing of the planes into their specific locations they in essence follwed the first rule of assasination. "Assasinate the assasin"

the got rid of all the loose ends and only the upper echelon of those that knew of the real events are alive to keep the secret.

The point being.
The only way a 9/11 consiricy works. is if you kill off everyone with any knowlege of it
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« Reply #27 on: June 29, 2007, 08:54:37 PM »
SaburoS
Where you been?
Havent seen you postng in a while.

BTW.
Seems I made the right choice.
thanks for the help :aok
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« Reply #28 on: June 29, 2007, 08:58:50 PM »
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SaburoS
Where you been?
Havent seen you postng in a while.

BTW.
Seems I made the right choice.
thanks for the help :aok


Been really busy!

Fantastic! Hey, you had a 50/50 chance! heh.
Glad you chose wisely.
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« Reply #29 on: June 29, 2007, 09:07:16 PM »
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Was he a participant?
Did he take part of the planning?
Is he merely guessing at what happened?
Where is the demolition team hired for the job?
Etc., Etc., Etc.,?

Here is the owner of the WTC buildings, Larry Silverstein, describing what took place. His spokeswomen said he was speaking of the firefighters, "pull the firefighters", but it seems like he said "it" not "them". Of course "it" is open to interpretation. Shucks.
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