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Offline rogwar

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« on: July 04, 2007, 10:39:41 AM »
Don't typically watch it but just happened to be on TV while I was cooking breakfast. Anchorman was talking to their local live CNN reporter in Iraq.

Anchorman to reporter: So are they soldiers in Iraq doing anything patriotic today?

The reporter goes on to talk about some typical 4th of July decorations around the mess hall an such.


Patriotic: How about putting on that uniform with the colors on the shoulder every day and serving your country. Could there hardly be anything more?
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« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2007, 11:40:26 AM »
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« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2007, 12:35:05 PM »
Remember when the Afghan/Iraq stuff started and everyone was flying the flag?

I didn't.  I also got called out on it.

I gave them a hearty STFU and explained that I chose to show my patriotism years ago by giving something back to this country by joining the USMC.

Of course days and weeks rolled into months and the flags these oppurtunistic partriots chose to fly became tattared and weatherstained.  Some flags on radio antanneas became nothing but strips of faded red cloth.

I feel that my gesture overshadows theirs.
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« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2007, 01:50:41 PM »
Always made me sad to see all those flags up in the weather.  Apparently, many people don't know the flag is supposed to be taken down in the rain.  So in being "patriotic", they were also seriously disrespectful.  Nothing to say about the guy i watched drag his flag over the ground to his "patriotic" flagpole.
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« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2007, 04:48:19 PM »
Actually, I do believe it is appropriate to display an all weather flag during the rain.

I have one up every day except in case of very strong wind or thunderstorms.
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« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2007, 11:05:29 PM »
http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/flagetiq.html
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« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2007, 12:29:41 AM »
I'm naturally curious, so I had to click that link to see what it was.:D

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« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2007, 12:31:59 AM »
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Originally posted by Yknurd
Remember when the Afghan/Iraq stuff started and everyone was flying the flag?

I didn't.  I also got called out on it.

I gave them a hearty STFU and explained that I chose to show my patriotism years ago by giving something back to this country by joining the USMC.

Of course days and weeks rolled into months and the flags these oppurtunistic partriots chose to fly became tattared and weatherstained.  Some flags on radio antanneas became nothing but strips of faded red cloth.

I feel that my gesture overshadows theirs.


Just a question... veteran to veteran...

Was patriotism what motivated you to join the Marines?
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« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2007, 01:53:10 AM »
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Originally posted by MORAY37
Always made me sad to see all those flags up in the weather.  Apparently, many people don't know the flag is supposed to be taken down in the rain.  So in being "patriotic", they were also seriously disrespectful.  Nothing to say about the guy i watched drag his flag over the ground to his "patriotic" flagpole.


In the rain is okay... in fact there are flags of various sizes: Garrison, Post, and Storm Flags for example, for military posts.  After all, these colors do not run (unless so voted by Congress....).

Now, a non-illuminated flag flown at night is one of the common screw ups I see.

Also, in the months following 9/11 and the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq, seeing all the vehicle mounted flags starting to collect along side the road was hard for me to see.  Then there were red neck pick up trucks displaying Garrison sized Flags from "pole" in the beds of their trucks running down the road..... not a big fan of those.

Never got into the outdoor display of flags myself either, especially when it becomes popular or en vogue among the "civilians".  Neighbors have seen me come and go in BDU, DCU, Class A's, and ACU uniforms --- or loading duffel bags and ALICE pack into the truck -- enough over the years wherever I've lived to say anything to me though.....  I have two American Flags, both are cased and displayed in my home (have an Iraqi Flag... Saddam regime... in a footlocker too).

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« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2007, 01:04:32 PM »
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Just a question... veteran to veteran...

Was patriotism what motivated you to join the Marines?


To be honest, it was about 50-50.

I certainly was not in a dead end job but I did want a change.  Incidentally, I ended up back into the same sort of work anyways.

And, yeah, I wanted to give back to this country.  I don't care much for people who only want to take.  The people who think they are entitled to stuff from the government, that shirk personal responisibilities and expect others to bail them out, people who abuse welfare and beget a new generation of welfare users/abusers.  And what is four years really?

I'm not some sort of liberal, 'socially concious', limp-wristed, pony-tailed, Prius driving, hippy.  Rather, I'm more of a conservative if I had to catagorize myself, but I try to do the 'right' thing.  I give blood three times  a year, I hold doors open for people, I stop and help women/children/old people if they need help (car breaks, flat tire, groceries fall, etc), I try to make a positive impact.  I don't do it to elevate myself above others, to point at my acts and piously and contempuously address people to how much better they could be, I simply do it because I believe that it's the right thing to do and it makes me feel good.  I truly believe that everyone should do a little something to make things better than when they arrived.

This isn't really a religious belief either.  I'm not strongly religious but I'm certainly not aetheist or agnostic.  I would help someone even if they were a Jew, Morman, Protestant, Chatholic, Methodists, Baptists, Seven-Day Adventist, ad naseum.  I would even help a Muslim if I didn't actively believe that particular Muslim thought the US is inherintly and holistically evil and want to destroy it.

I even support mandatory military service, or if you 'object' to the military, then some sort of civil position.

I support a few select charities in my community, my wife and I are talking to our local community college to create a bi-yearly scholorship to help married students with children just as we were when we went back to school.

Patriotism?  Maybe patriotism with sense of social responsibility.  I could have been more selfish and not chosen the military.  I wanted the change (it was not imperative) and I thought that I could use this chance to give something substantial not just locally but to my country.  I'm extremely glad and wholeheartedly proud that I did.

[edit] I also was extremely aware that I might be in harms way.  Gulf War I was in effect when I enlisted.  Got my Fire Watch ribbon coming out of boot camp.  Several of my friends while I was in had already spent time in Iraq.
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« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2007, 03:16:50 PM »
Thanks Drunky, appreciate the response.

I'll freely admit that patriotism or even social responsibility weren't motivators at all for me. I needed a change, simple as that.

I stuck around for ten years while I figured out what I wanted to do next.
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