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« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2007, 01:21:15 PM »
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You see, how it works.  My plot to get more and more guys flying 38Gs is surely taking hold now.  Crockett is flying the G more and more.

Freezeman was in a G tonite.  G drivers everywhere.

I will take over the AH world!

38G beats both the Tony and Frank btw :D
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« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2007, 01:21:45 PM »
This one time I drove a goon on the ground 5 miles and took the port with 2 GVs still up at the port. :noid
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« Reply #17 on: July 04, 2007, 01:22:17 PM »
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You see, how it works.  My plot to get more and more guys flying 38Gs is surely taking hold now.  Crockett is flying the G more and more.

Freezeman was in a G tonite.  G drivers everywhere.

I will take over the AH world!

38G beats both the Tony and Frank btw :D


lol well I always flew the J before, but it just didn't seem to work well for me, or  not the way I like to fly. I always kept hearing the G was the better turner but I just couldn't get past that crappy view. :rolleyes:

I finally decided to just do it and after awhile the crappy view kinda seems to go away, to the point it's easy to ignore. Once I got over the bad view, the G seems to fit my flying style much better.  I tend to get into most of my fights in the under 5k range so it seems to preform the best out of the three 38's in that range.

I also think flying  the A6m with no WEP helped a lot, because you get broken from being a WEP addict flying that plane.  With the G model I really don't miss the WEP at all other than when trying to run someone down.
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« Reply #18 on: July 04, 2007, 01:26:00 PM »
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This one time I drove a goon on the ground 5 miles and took the port with 2 GVs still up at the port. :noid
LMFAO, that was mint!  Wasn't it?   I now realize what purpose spawncampers provide.    An open back door.    We'll have to do that again.
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« Reply #19 on: July 04, 2007, 01:26:24 PM »
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lol well I always flew the J before, but it just didn't seem to work well for me, or  not the way I like to fly. I always kept hearing the G was the better turner but I just couldn't get past that crappy view. :rolleyes:

I finally decided to just do it and after awhile the crappy view kinda seems to go away, to the point it's easy to ignore. Once I got over the bad view, the G seems to fit my flying style much better.  I tend to get into most of my fights in the under 5k range so it seems to preform the best out of the three 38's in that range.

I also think flying  the A6m with no WEP helped a lot, because you get broken from being a WEP addict flying that plane.  With the G model I really don't miss the WEP at all other than when trying to run someone down.


Exactly.  Low and slow, turning on the deck.  The only place for a 38G to be :)
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« Reply #20 on: July 04, 2007, 01:38:18 PM »
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LMFAO, that was mint!  Wasn't it?   I now realize what purpose spawncampers provide.    An open back door.    We'll have to do that again.


Yes we will, but next time I think Ill fly the goon. Taxing 5 miles at 90mph is hard lol.
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Re: Re: Masherbrum aka Karaya
« Reply #21 on: July 04, 2007, 01:45:12 PM »
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Again, I'm up to prove these numbers wrong as I do it often.    Skills aside, you'd think the Bish and Knight folks that come across a Rook Ki61 wouldn't get cocky.    But, they do and very often find themselves in the tower quickly.    I applaud them for thinking like this, it makes my job even easier.

I'm sure the last two sentences will come across as arrogance as it has been common in the past.   Folks will pile on my statements, and when defending myself, the accusations fly.

Now back on track.   I RARELY am above 12k, my squaddies and friends in all countries will agree with this.   I will use 12k worth of E in a fight, if I am on the deck, I will try and save some E.   I DO NOT use flaps, and 90% of the time, rarely use them.   I use throttle manipulation instead.   It is more effective for my style of fighting.    Climbing 8k more to me, is a waste of time and fuel.   If I only fly to 20k and stay there at all costs, I am limiting my skills and restricting tactics even further.    I WILL climb to 20k and knock someone off of that perch, and then dive back to altitude.  

In the 5 years + of playing AH, I have shocked country mates by predicting Con maneuvers before they even happen.   I can often with a degree of accuracy tell who I'm fighting.  

Summary:   Numbers and charts mean watermelon in a MA environment.    The numbers are replaced by cockiness, laziness, and 2nd guesses.    I have NO PROBLEMS turning with Spits and easier yet, Ki84's.   I did it Monday night.    I do it often.    He even had altitude, but he made a fatal error, he misjudged my E, I was easily catching him in the ONLY plus the Ki84 has.   He was caught going vertical, and had about 11k to plummet.  

Strafing, you've always a problem with me for some reason as I've never done anything to you personally.    I believe you are one who is younger than myself and carries a grudge over the most minuscule of dealings.    I dropped the MA milk run baggage that you participated in over a year ago.    The Rooks who were on last night would concur with this as well.  

Look at my scores this Tour, and 2 Tours ago.    You'll see what I mean.  

Finally, if you want to get better, do not hesitate to see if I want to take you to the DA.   I'd be happy to teach all that I know.     Then again, "since Karaya sucks, I might be wasting my time."  

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Well again, I'm not saying a Ki-61 is a bad plane, I'm saying it's not the equal of a ki-84 in a equal setting. In the MA of course charts don't mean a thing, as one guys is likely to always have a advantage over the other for one reason or another.

It might be a E advantage, Alt or even a weight advantage.  The ki-61 might be on his lat leg of his fuel tank while the Ki-84 might have just dropped his drop tanks. All sort of little things can add up to an advantage for one guy or the other.

I've killed quite a few guys in the Ki-61 myself, but it's not my primary ride but I know it's a great plane if flown well. Simply because a lot of guys under estimate it. Then again that can happen with a lot of planes, hell I had my but handed to me the other day in my 38G by a guy in a A20 of all planes. I know the A20 can be a killer but yea just tend to assume it's going to be a easy kill.. lol well I was wrong.

Much can be said the same with a Ki-61, a lot of guys will under estimate it which gives you an advantage. I honestly like the plane, at speed it seems to fly better than the ki-84 it just suffers from a horrible climb rate.

When I fly either of the KI's I also rarely ever use any flaps, in an attempt to keep my speed up. With A6m's I use flaps all the time, but it's a different style of plane and needs to be flown differently.

I'm' pretty sure we are in agreement that the 61 is a good plane, I was just saying if all things are equal the 84 is the better performer.

On the furballer vs toolsheaders I try not to get into that stuff anymore. I figure I fall right in the middle.. I like to capture bases and win wars but I also like a good fight.

I just tend to stay away from furballs, because I like to kill my own kills and not have 5 guys jump in on the kill I was working and only get an assist for my effort. (Assists tick me off it's a pet peve) So furballs over all annoy me, but it's not because of the win the war reasons.

That's why I tend to lean towards smaller fights or bases attacks, at least that way I know I don't have to worry about 5 guys jumping in on the con I was fighting.
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« Reply #22 on: July 04, 2007, 01:48:59 PM »
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Exactly.  Low and slow, turning on the deck.  The only place for a 38G to be :)


Yea that's the problem I was having before, I was trying to use the J on the deck too much. It can be done but not as good as the G does it.
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« Reply #23 on: July 04, 2007, 03:45:47 PM »
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This one time I drove a goon on the ground 5 miles and took the port with 2 GVs still up at the port. :noid



"Lets kill that Mossie that just killed ALL the port ack":rofl :aok

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« Reply #24 on: July 04, 2007, 05:56:33 PM »
What is this Tony he speaketh of.....no such person.










Ssssh, don't ruin a good ride by publicizing it and letting the noobs think they can fly it.

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« Reply #25 on: July 04, 2007, 07:55:03 PM »
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Re: Re: Masherbrum aka Karaya
« Reply #26 on: July 05, 2007, 07:50:41 AM »
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Summary:   Numbers and charts mean watermelon in a MA environment.    The numbers are replaced by cockiness, laziness, and 2nd guesses.  

True enough.  You really don't disagree with Crockett, who is speaking of equal pilots in the two planes.  He's right, so far as I'm concerned.

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« Reply #27 on: July 05, 2007, 08:43:50 AM »
I would have to agree. I'm no expert but I've flown both KIs more than a few times and had much success in both. Just because I can out turn a spit in a Ki61 (done it many times) does not mean the Ki turns better than a spit. It means I was slower, or lighter, or the other guy plum didn't see me.

Ki84 is way ahead of Ki61 in effectiveness, IMO.