Author Topic: Atlas Shrugged (Read 1268 times)

moot · « **Reply #15 on:** July 07, 2007, 10:03:26 AM »

Lazs, Creationism aka ID (not Christianity) is just fake science. It is a fraud, the same kind as those "scientist" that pretended they had scientific proof that races other than "Aryans" were sub-human.
Even supposing it were not nonsense to teach something that's not science as science, such as ID wishes it could be, it not being science means it is not a functional (not even mediocre) substitute to science.

I don't mean to repeat it ten different ways, but it is the same BS as politicians selling people their crap under the guise of bold new reform.

By all means, it ought to be taught in the field of philosophy (although I think it no place elsewhere than history), but not in science. I say nowhere better taught than in History class, because it doesn't even work as Religion. It's neither good at religion (human, artificial alterations of godly ideas) nor at rational purpose.
It isn't any good in terms of rational purpose because it comes from nowhere and leads to nowhere. It basicaly takes the worst from both science and religion.

About Rand's books: I haven't read it yet, but if it's that good, I guess I'll have to pick it up..

Rolex · « **Reply #16 on:** July 07, 2007, 11:59:46 AM »

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About Rand's books: I haven't read it yet, but if it's that good, I guess I'll have to pick it up..

If you're into adding rambling manifestos to your "intellectual punch card" that have little to do with the world as it is, but enjoy drawing unintended parallels from the bible of unintended parallels that you think will impress freshmen sorority girls and other cult members, you might like it. You can also use it to prop up a broken leg under a sofa.

moot · « **Reply #17 on:** July 07, 2007, 01:56:14 PM »

Is it that bad? Not as good as e.g. 1984? Are the rest of her books any different?

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #18 on:** July 07, 2007, 03:14:42 PM »

No, it's a good book. It will strike up emotions, one way or another.

The basics of the book are that the looters are ruining society. The looters are those who tax anything that move, believe that everything should be equal, even if it has to be forced.

Basically, if you are even the tiniest bit conservative, you will find it a great book. If you are the tiniest bit liberal, you will abhor it completely because it is "Totally False."

In summary, if you believe you have to work for everything you want in life, you'll like it. If you believe the government should give you everything you need in life, you'll hate it.

mosgood · « **Reply #19 on:** July 07, 2007, 03:24:00 PM »

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In summary, if you believe you have to work for everything you want in life, you'll like it. If you believe the government should give you everything you need in life, you'll hate it.

Perfect summary

JB88 · « **Reply #20 on:** July 07, 2007, 04:25:13 PM »

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Com'on You know Tom Cruise would be great as John Galt!

And Ben Afleck as Santiago..

What a GREAT cast this would be!!!

they have special rooms in hell for people like you.

Rolex · « **Reply #21 on:** July 07, 2007, 06:56:14 PM »

It's a book for young people. If you already know that you have to work for everything you want in life, it's tedious.

john9001 · « **Reply #22 on:** July 07, 2007, 07:05:38 PM »

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It's a book for young people. If you already know that you have to work for everything you want in life, it's tedious.

not so, if you have rich mommys an daddys you will never have to "work", you may find something to do that you can call "work" like shopping or going to parties or something.

moot · « **Reply #23 on:** July 07, 2007, 11:10:22 PM »

I see, thanks.

Rolex · « **Reply #24 on:** July 07, 2007, 11:36:28 PM »

I shouldn't discourage you from reading it, moot. It's very large and heavy and best read intensely in coffee shops so everyone sees you reading it. Remarkably, everyone reading it think that they are not one of the "looters," but everyone around them is.

mosgood · « **Reply #25 on:** July 08, 2007, 08:08:10 AM »

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I shouldn't discourage you from reading it, moot. It's very large and heavy and best read intensely in coffee shops so everyone sees you reading it. Remarkably, everyone reading it think that they are not one of the "looters," but everyone around them is.

I personaly never felt superior read it. I certainly didn't carry it around and read it for 3 months just to impress people. Slow reader.

Not sure how you could know how people feel when reading it unless you can personaly relate. Was that the case Rolex?

Did all this happen to you when you read the book? With all the input about the book... you did READ it.. right?

moot · « **Reply #26 on:** July 08, 2007, 08:31:04 AM »

mosgood · « **Reply #27 on:** July 08, 2007, 09:59:24 AM »

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LOL I probably did sound like that.

There ARE people in this world that read for pleasure and not just for a false sense of status. Or to impress others by associating themselves with a certatin type of book. The concept is a little strange to me.. so I was wondering how Rolex could so easily brand people as being that way by reading THIS book. Reading a book should not label you as a "this or that"

Rolex · « **Reply #28 on:** July 08, 2007, 10:31:27 AM »

It was just a little humor, mosgood. Any conversation about Atlas Shrugged could use a little shot of humor. I apologize if you took offense at my opinion of the thousand-page doorstop known as Atlas Shrugged. I hope you notice an ever-so-slight, humorous pattern developing here?

Okay, I'll be dour and serious. Yes, I read it about 35 years ago. I'm a writer, so I'm a reader. Yes, I have a branding license - I'm licensed in 12 states (including Ohio) to brand readers.

I urge everyone to read it. As a matter of fact, I urge everyone to read it three or four times. Out loud. I recommend listening to the 47-CD "book on tape" version while crisscrossing the continent on AmTrak. I urge people read it aloud while simultaneously watching the movie "Reds" over and over.

Gunthr · « **Reply #29 on:** July 08, 2007, 11:11:11 AM »

mosgood, i wouldn't worry much about the shallow dismissal, by one person, of a well regarded piece of writing. a lot of good writing is dismissed by people who are unable, for whatever reason, to take much from it.