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Offline lagger86

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« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2007, 12:30:22 PM »
wow I was gonna give this TE a try, but after reading some of this stuff I think I'll just pass. Good luck OOZ.:aok
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« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2007, 12:31:23 PM »
Well geeze, that wasn't my intent... :huh


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« Reply #17 on: July 11, 2007, 12:38:25 PM »
I'll give it a try, I just basically haven't understood anything that anyone is saying. My knowledge of computer stuff is limited, but so is my tolerance for the limited number of maps in the MA. So yeah It's worth a try.
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« Reply #18 on: July 11, 2007, 12:40:50 PM »
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Now here's the biggest question...where to get a greyscale? :D Do I have to make that by hand? :confused: It doesn't seem like you do with all the things you guys put out.

Really, thanks for the help guys. I hope to make something for the MAs that'll stand the test of time...at least until I grow up. :D
If the CD makes you drool, you'd cry if I told you I can make a usable grayscale in about 20 seconds about 90% of the time. ;)

You can make them by hand. Use Terragen, or any one of many terrain creation programs.

Baby steps my friend...baby steps. Get use to the TE before you dive in and make a terrain for the MA. :)

You'll find posts from me in this forum dating back to 2003. I didn't submit my first terrain until 2006.
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« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2007, 12:47:35 PM »
Yes, but how? :) Damned secrets of the masters! If you tel me you do it by hand...well...I really don't know what I'd do. :confused: Practice, I guess.

I wasn't planning on it going right the first time. I might as well start on something big and make my screwups than many small things before starting to screw up on the big project. :D

EDIT: I do feel rather comfortable with the TE's interface and how it works. If I had to lay down tile by tile I could do it. Just that even I don't have time for that on an MA standard map.
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« Reply #20 on: July 11, 2007, 12:48:28 PM »
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Yes, but how? :) Damned secrets of the masters! If you tel me you do it by hand...well...I really don't know what I'd do. :confused: Practice, I guess.

I wasn't planning on it going right the first time. I might as well start on something big and make my screwups than many small things before starting to screw up on the big project. :D
Google "Terrain Generator".

Most if not all require purchase.

DEM (Digital Elevation Model) files are free.
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« Reply #21 on: July 11, 2007, 12:50:46 PM »
If I swung that way...I'd love you. :rofl

(Good thing for you, eh? :eek: )
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« Reply #22 on: July 11, 2007, 12:51:32 PM »
Well, if it's more affordable than Terragen, I'll be happy.
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« Reply #23 on: July 11, 2007, 12:52:58 PM »
Making them by hand really isn't that hard if you know how to use Photoshop or Paint Shop. It just takes practice.

I do occasionally make them by hand too.

In general, here's what a grayscale for a 256 mile map should look like. Except it should be 1024 x 1024.

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« Reply #24 on: July 11, 2007, 03:10:05 PM »
Nhawk, is your tilesetter generally available, or is access to it restricted?

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« Reply #25 on: July 11, 2007, 03:39:54 PM »
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Nhawk, is your tilesetter generally available, or is access to it restricted?

Right now I don't have it available online anywhere but it works in a similar manner to the one MachNix posted above. Just use the tilesetter portion and not the import portion.
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« Reply #26 on: July 11, 2007, 04:09:05 PM »
Ooz, the only secrets the masters have is that they have practice at it. Try it a couple of times, you'll see it ain't so hard.
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« Reply #27 on: July 11, 2007, 04:09:21 PM »
I made a random map in Terrain Generator and put it through a lot of trial-and-error on the Tile setter program, but the best I've come up with is varying degrees of this:



Whereas this is the image I started with (before resizing)

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« Reply #28 on: July 11, 2007, 04:25:09 PM »
Ah, I think I've figured it out.

MachNix (or anyone who knows), how large should the "square" in the center of the image be for Tile Setter? I took the color map outputted by Tile Setter and measured that the terrain seemed to be 550 pixels squared, so I adjusted the greyscale to that and got a decent result. Is there a set size that square should be on the 1024x1024 image?
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« Reply #29 on: July 11, 2007, 04:47:37 PM »
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Right now I don't have it available online anywhere but it works in a similar manner to the one MachNix posted above. Just use the tilesetter portion and not the import portion.


NHawk if you want a perm, place to host it I'll put on my site for ya if you like.

Let me know.

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