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Offline McFarland

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« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2007, 06:40:15 PM »
Abe Lincoln said something similar: "America shall not be taken by outside forces, it shall be destroyed from within." I think it was Abe Lincoln, not 100% sure.

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« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2007, 06:41:38 PM »
no, it was me, i just said it.:D

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« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2007, 06:47:02 PM »
Pretty sure Abe said it first. Unless you're over 150 years old.

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« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2007, 06:52:20 PM »
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« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2007, 07:02:10 PM »
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« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2007, 07:11:29 PM »
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This country was founded on those commandments.



No it wasn't.


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« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2007, 07:13:42 PM »
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That's aboot the worst thing aboot them.



Canadian redneck?


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« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2007, 07:39:19 PM »
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Originally posted by McFarland
This country was founded on those <10> commandments.
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No it wasn't.


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1.  Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

2.  A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

3. No soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.

4. The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

5. No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

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« Reply #23 on: July 12, 2007, 07:56:46 PM »
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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion


That small portion of the 1st amendment was construed by the SC to mean Christianity in any sort of public forum must be stamped out. Is SEEING the Ten Commandments posted in a public building the same sort of invasion to one's person as say, smoking in an elevator?

And does ANYONE here think the anti-religion types will start fighting back against Muslim efforts to inject itself into our daily lives? Thus far, in America and abroad, most seem to be bending over backwards to accommodate people who came from backward, 13th century countries, who want a better life. Unfortunately, their strict adherence to Islam is what made said countries backwards to begin with, and they are utterly blind to that.
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« Reply #24 on: July 12, 2007, 09:47:08 PM »
So, under a voucher system, your tax dollars could be used to fund a Madrasah.  


Interesting.
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« Reply #25 on: July 12, 2007, 10:08:14 PM »
Here is a little less .... psycho? .... report on what is REALLY going on.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/20070702-9999-1n2prayer.html

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« Reply #26 on: July 13, 2007, 01:50:00 AM »
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OK, CAN't have Ten Commandments on the wall in a courtroom
CAN'T have a cross on a hill on public land (though it is a memorial to dead soldiers)
CAN'T allow Boy Scouts of America to use public land
CAN't allow kids to read Bible SILENTLY to themselves during break
CAN'T allow kids to have a 'Bible' club after hours on school property
(Could go on for some time here, but you get the idea..I'm waiting for Rosie O'Donnell to scream out "SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE!"....but these types usually have naught to say in this area)

But apparently the ACLU DOESN'T have any sort of problem with public schools accommodating Muslims by  having prayer breaks, and removing any vestige of pork from school grounds???


 

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What does this have to do with the ACLU? The ACLU doesnt do anything but fight for constitutional issues. And that is non partisan. You really need to read more. When this becomes a legal constitutional issue and they have the $ and time they will get involved. Donate and help them keep ALL religion out of the public square.
The rightwingChristianrepublicOn party wants Christianity everywhere and now you are upset when the Muslims are doing the same? Hypocrisy! We warned you but you wouldnt listen. You have got what you asked for.
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« Reply #27 on: July 13, 2007, 01:53:07 AM »
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That small portion of the 1st amendment was construed by the SC to mean Christianity in any sort of public forum must be stamped out. Is SEEING the Ten Commandments posted in a public building the same sort of invasion to one's person as say, smoking in an elevator?

And does ANYONE here think the anti-religion types will start fighting back against Muslim efforts to inject itself into our daily lives? Thus far, in America and abroad, most seem to be bending over backwards to accommodate people who came from backward, 13th century countries, who want a better life. Unfortunately, their strict adherence to Islam is what made said countries backwards to begin with, and they are utterly blind to that.


Yes we will fight that. I dont want any religion in the public square. We moderates have been telling you religious types this for years. But no, you wanted Jesus in the public square. We warned you that it would come back to bite you. Now here it is and you are pissed. We were right and you were wrong.
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« Reply #28 on: July 13, 2007, 02:08:42 AM »
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Here is a little less .... psycho? .... report on what is REALLY going on.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/20070702-9999-1n2prayer.html


"In a letter, the religious-rights organization urged the district to broaden its accommodations to Christians and Jews by setting aside separate classrooms for daily prayer and to permit rabbis, priests and other religious figures to lead children in worship on campuses."

No Sheep leggin P.E gear for the Pagen kids? or after school animal sacrifice 101 for Satins worshipers?... weak.

Another case of politcal correctness run a-muck; to avoid "charges" of racism, the school made exceptions for one group of opinions, of course those with differing opinions have noticed and want their point of view, rituals, trinkets, phrases, plastic statues and invisible man to be part of the exceptions too.

Should the school accommodate every uber-natural opinion, "school" will go from a learning institution, to a religious freak show.

School "officials", not wanting to look like the hypocrites they are, will defend their decisions with what they believe to be a clever argument.. that will be transparently stupid... all in an attempt to hold onto whatever power their bureaucratic job affords them.

Lots of tax $$ will be spent in expensive court squabbles where all sides whine, and in the end... the exceptions made will be wiped out.

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« Reply #29 on: July 13, 2007, 03:05:21 AM »
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Yes we will fight that. I dont want any religion in the public square. We moderates have been telling you religious types this for years. But no, you wanted Jesus in the public square. We warned you that it would come back to bite you. Now here it is and you are pissed. We were right and you were wrong.



Did you watch the video of those two idiots that heckled the Hindu priest giving the morning prayer in the Senate?


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