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Offline kilz

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Are CV's Too Strong
« on: July 13, 2007, 12:36:16 PM »
well i was flying by dropping bombs on crap and low and behold i found a CV :t  first pass nailed it 6 1000 pounders did not go down:huh  ok no problem swing around dropped 3 1000 pounders on it nailed it still up :O  thats 9 1000 pounders.


to just clear it up before yall say it, i dont count my drones when i drop on cv's i just count my lead bomber. HTC says it takes 8000 pounds to kill cv.

now it gets better i had my squad follow up on it with some jabos 3 hit it with 2 1000 pounders great i thought its dead right. NO. that was another 6 thousand pounds of ords on it. so thats a total of 15,000 pounds of ord on that cv.

the only thing i could think of was CV is rebuilding its self. looked that up on HTC and it clearly states that CV can not be resupplied:huh
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Offline Krusty

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« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2007, 12:40:27 PM »
CVs lose parts easily enough, but damage to the hull wears off very quickly. How long did it take for you to "turn around for another drop"? If it was more than 5 minutes I'm guessing part of it "regenerated". I know that inside 15 minutes it'll be undone, as I've done tests offline before, where I would bomb it, die, reup and bomb it again but it would be full strength by the time I got back (inside 15 minutes).
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Offline Connery

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« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2007, 12:40:27 PM »
imo CV's aren't tough enough.

edit: CV Groups I suppose I meant to say rather than CV's
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Offline Shifty

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« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2007, 12:44:03 PM »
Leave the CVs alone Infidel!:D
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Offline kilz

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« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2007, 12:46:41 PM »
my turn around and second drop was no longer then 40 seconds. was a simple loop with my bombers and i dropped and really 40 seconds is more then normal but i will give it 10 seconds for kicks
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Offline dedalos

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« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2007, 01:20:45 PM »
You are doing it the wrong way.  Instead of a second drop, you should have finished it off with a few rounds from a YAK
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« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2007, 01:35:46 PM »
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well i was flying by dropping bombs on crap and low and behold i found a CV :t  first pass nailed it 6 1000 pounders did not go down:huh  ok no problem swing around dropped 3 1000 pounders on it nailed it still up :O  thats 9 1000 pounders.


to just clear it up before yall say it, i dont count my drones when i drop on cv's i just count my lead bomber. HTC says it takes 8000 pounds to kill cv.

now it gets better i had my squad follow up on it with some jabos 3 hit it with 2 1000 pounders great i thought its dead right. NO. that was another 6 thousand pounds of ords on it. so thats a total of 15,000 pounds of ord on that cv.

the only thing i could think of was CV is rebuilding its self. looked that up on HTC and it clearly states that CV can not be resupplied:huh




First off you missed.  I've yet not to sink a cv with salvo 4 in b26's.  Salvo 3 really damages it but doesnt sink.  Secondly CV's DO in fact regain.  Example is manned 5 Inch.  They regain in 15 min.  Sunk cruiser regains in 45 min.

Face 2 possible facts..... you missed your salvo was to long.
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Re: Re: Are CV's Too Strong
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2007, 01:40:41 PM »
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First off you missed.  I've yet not to sink a cv with salvo 4 in b26's.  Salvo 3 really damages it but doesnt sink.  Secondly CV's DO in fact regain.  Example is manned 5 Inch.  They regain in 15 min.  Sunk cruiser regains in 45 min.

Face 2 possible facts..... you missed your salvo was to long.



hmmmmmmm let me think about that NO i hit it and got ***(<---insert bad word here) load of guns and crap. kind of hard to not notice all the gun kills in your text buffer. every time i drop bombs i watch them in god mode so i know if i was off or right on. its the only way to learn in bombers. next time i will have film for you  :D
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Offline trax1

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« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2007, 01:49:54 PM »
Well I've dropped a CV  that was undamaged with a single B-24, I had the 8 1000Lb bombs and hit it head on so all bombs hit and it sunk.
« Last Edit: July 13, 2007, 01:52:16 PM by trax1 »
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« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2007, 01:54:00 PM »
I've never experienced any technical difficulty in sinking CV's. B26's with 500#-er's level at 8K works well.
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Offline crockett

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« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2007, 02:08:15 PM »
I rarely ever have issues sinking a CV if I hit it. I normally never use Lancaster's and normally never use all the bombs. Hell I even sunk a CV using a 110 with heavy gun package and rockets. It was already damaged, but I'm not sure how bad.

Personally I think the fact it's so easy to kill a CV by level bombing is a little lame. I can't think of any time in WW2 that a CV or ship was killed by level bombers.
« Last Edit: July 13, 2007, 02:10:47 PM by crockett »
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« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2007, 02:15:28 PM »
I've managed to sink CV with 2 1K eggs and beaters (rockets), and half my ammo (50s) so i'm guessing it was extremely damaged by that point..
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« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2007, 02:34:57 PM »
First off...it does take 8K of ord to kill a CV...

However...once hit...the CV's damage control parties go to work and they continuosly rebuild the damage...so..if you don't get ALL ords on target in each drop...you'll need more on a subsequent drop.  

As for CV Hardness....a single 500 lber should be able to take out, if not disable,  a CV...IF it is placed right... in my humble opinion.

Below the waterline is a different story. BB's, CA's, and CV's had belts of armour to protect them from torpedoes.

The weakness of US Carriers in WWII was their wooden decks.


Just some thoughts...
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« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2007, 02:53:57 PM »
I rarely have problems sinking CVs with 9k (salvo 3 from forms).
but have seen odd occations that ive hit the CV dead center
with 24k lbs and it still not sink.

ive rarely seen a cruiser take more then 2  8" salvo hits and not sink, but odd occations ive seen it take 4 and 5 hits to sink.

so id say some times the damage model on ships is fubar for some reason.


and i dont miss CVs, when i say i hit, i mean dead center deck/tower all bombs.

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Offline SteveBailey

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« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2007, 03:01:10 PM »
cv to base fights rock. IMHO cv's are not strong enough.
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