« previous next »
Pages: 1 [2] 3   Go Down

Author Topic: U.S troops "embarrassing" sez Iraq prez  (Read 843 times)

Offline AKIron

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 13372
U.S troops "embarrassing" sez Iraq prez
« Reply #15 on: July 14, 2007, 07:55:58 PM »
Even if we pull out before the job is finished we can support Iraq with equipment and training against Iran when Iran steps up their attacks. Letting them fight each other keeps them from car bombing our restaurants and shooting up our shopping malls at least for a while. Afraid the democrats just aren't going to profit from an early withdrawal.
Logged
Here we put salt on Margaritas, not sidewalks.

Offline Kermit de frog

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3708
      • LGM Films
U.S troops "embarrassing" sez Iraq prez
« Reply #16 on: July 14, 2007, 08:33:20 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by Silat
Yeah just 2 days ago the dems were calling for a phased withdrawal. But reps said they were traitors and losers. But now Bush would be a hero for the same thing? You guys confuse me:)


silat, I think the comment on traitors and losers was meant for an EARLY withdrawal.  Your comment is incomplete.  You play'n politics?
:)
Logged
Time's fun when you're having flies.

Offline Shifty

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 9377
      • 307th FS
U.S troops "embarrassing" sez Iraq prez
« Reply #17 on: July 14, 2007, 08:35:00 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by Elfie
One of them over there right now is my own son. He will always be my boy.

I was speaking as a parent of one of those boys and girls.


:aok
Logged

JG-11"Black Hearts"...nur die Stolzen, nur die Starken

"Haji may have blown my legs off but I'm still a stud"~ SPC Thomas Vandeventer Delta1/5 1st CAV

Offline Kermit de frog

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3708
      • LGM Films
Re: Re: U.S troops "embarrassing" sez Iraq prez
« Reply #18 on: July 14, 2007, 08:38:11 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by Silat
War is over??
In just one communique the war against terror is over?
Bring the boys back home......................... ...
The democratically elected leader says we can leave.
LOL
Never happen.. Not unless we can take our oil with us.


Are you implying that the war was started because we want better control of the oil there?  If so, then why would we "take the oil with us".  Practically I do not see thing happening.  But you know this, so don't you think we'll still leave anyways once the new saddam free government is stable?  An unstable govt is no better than a sadam controlled government.

I hope I worded this correctly.  :)
Logged
Time's fun when you're having flies.

storch

  • Guest
U.S troops "embarrassing" sez Iraq prez
« Reply #19 on: July 14, 2007, 08:42:32 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by Elfie
One of them over there right now is my own son. He will always be my boy.

I was speaking as a parent of one of those boys and girls.
 to you and to your boy sir.
Logged

Offline VOR

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2313
U.S troops "embarrassing" sez Iraq prez
« Reply #20 on: July 14, 2007, 09:41:31 PM »
It IS about the oil. I smuggled a 55 gal drum of crude back in my duffel bag. Bwahahaha! Take that, liberals!
Logged

Offline FrodeMk3

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2481
U.S troops "embarrassing" sez Iraq prez
« Reply #21 on: July 14, 2007, 09:41:36 PM »
<> Elfie, to you, and your son for his service. I sincerely hope that this new turn of events will bring him home, safe and sound, to you and your family.
Logged

Offline Maverick

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 13958
U.S troops "embarrassing" sez Iraq prez
« Reply #22 on: July 14, 2007, 09:55:53 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by john9001
they are not "boys and girls" they are men and women, give them that much respect.


While I understand why you posted that, there was no disrespect intended in Elfies post. FWIW I think both of you are showing respect for the troops.
« Last Edit: July 14, 2007, 10:20:08 PM by Maverick »
Logged
DEFINITION OF A VETERAN
A Veteran - whether active duty, retired, national guard or reserve - is someone who, at one point in their life, wrote a check made payable to "The United States of America", for an amount of "up to and including my life."
Author Unknown

Offline vorticon

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7935
U.S troops "embarrassing" sez Iraq prez
« Reply #23 on: July 14, 2007, 10:02:57 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by VOR
It IS about the oil. I smuggled a 55 gal drum of crude back in my duffel bag. Bwahahaha! Take that, liberals!



well, i suppose thats a little lighter than stealing a couple tonnes of coal :aok
Logged

Offline Seagoon

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2396
      • http://www.providencepca.com
U.S troops "embarrassing" sez Iraq prez
« Reply #24 on: July 14, 2007, 10:13:02 PM »
It's not too difficult to figure out from a regional standpoint.

The US has made it abundantly clear that they will be withdrawing from Iraq in the near future (in '08 probably) regardless of what the situation is over there. When that happens a power vacuum will be created, which the Shi 'ite majority behind Al-Maliki's government wants filled by their co-religionists in Iran. The next to last thing they would want is the surrounding Sunni states backing the creation of another Sunni dominated government. So they are quietly working towards the end of creating a second Shi 'ite state in the region with a rather obvious puppet master.

Or as one wry caption on another site recently put it:


I'm counting on this guy to set up my client state for me[/i]
Logged
SEAGOON aka Pastor Andy Webb
"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion... Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." - John Adams

Offline Slash27

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 12798
U.S troops "embarrassing" sez Iraq prez
« Reply #25 on: July 14, 2007, 10:41:40 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by Elfie
One of them over there right now is my own son. He will always be my boy.

I was speaking as a parent of one of those boys and girls.


Logged

Offline Elfie

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6143
U.S troops "embarrassing" sez Iraq prez
« Reply #26 on: July 15, 2007, 01:25:45 AM »
Quote
Originally posted by FrodeMk3
<> Elfie, to you, and your son for his service. I sincerely hope that this new turn of events will bring him home, safe and sound, to you and your family.


Thanks. :)

This is his second tour in Iraq. When he called me just before leaving the first time to tell me he was leaving to catch his flight, I cried because I feared for his safety. Yet at the same time I was proud of him. When he finally got home he called to say he was home safe with his wife and daughters. I cried again after he hung up only this time the tears were brought on by a sense of relief and joy that my prayers to God for his safe return had been answered.

When he left again this time, things were no different, I again cried and was even more proud of the man he is becoming. I suspect that when he does make it home this time that I will cry again for the very same reasons as last time.

If he has to serve a third tour I suspect I won't have a single hair left on my head that ISN"T grey. :p
Logged
Corkyjr on country jumping:
In the end you should be thankful for those players like us who switch to try and help keep things even because our willingness to do so, helps a more selfish, I want it my way player, get to fly his latewar uber ride.

Offline Elfie

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6143
U.S troops "embarrassing" sez Iraq prez
« Reply #27 on: July 15, 2007, 01:32:27 AM »
Quote
Originally posted by Elfie
One of them over there right now is my own son. He will always be my boy.

I was speaking as a parent of one of those boys and girls.


John let me try to explain this better.

He will always be my boy even though he is a man now. When I see him, I don't just see the man he has become. I also see the little boy that he once was, full of innocence and joy. In this same sense, my daughters will also forever be my girls. :)

As a parent I don't just see men and women over there, I see other parents boys and girls as well.

Hope that made more sense than the post I quoted. :)
Logged
Corkyjr on country jumping:
In the end you should be thankful for those players like us who switch to try and help keep things even because our willingness to do so, helps a more selfish, I want it my way player, get to fly his latewar uber ride.

VWE

  • Guest
U.S troops "embarrassing" sez Iraq prez
« Reply #28 on: July 15, 2007, 02:24:10 AM »
Originally posted by Aknurd
Quote
Yeah, it's completely embarrassing the way American troops are dieing for their country.


I sure hope that was tongue in cheek for I am here as I type and there is nothing embarrassing about what we are doing and dieing for. What I find embarrassing are armchair quarterbacks who've never served a day in their lives telling me anything about our military.
Logged

Offline babek-

  • Nickel Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 459
      • http://members.tripod.com/KG51EDELWEISS
U.S troops "embarrassing" sez Iraq prez
« Reply #29 on: July 15, 2007, 02:38:28 AM »
During the 8-year war between Iran and Iraq Al-Maliki fled from Iraq to Iran - like a million other iraqi shi ites.

He was recruited by the iranian Pasdaran, the Revolutionary Guards, and became a member of this guard-unit of the iranian military forces.

Like german communists in WW2, wo were cooperating with soviet military, Al Maliky then was used for propaganda operations on the front - trying to convince iraqi shi ite soldiers to lay down their wepons or by interrogating iraqi POW´s in order to defect to the iraqi shi ite forces fighting on iranian side.

When in Iraq the new democratic election system was introduced more than 95% the iraqi shi ites voted like they were ordered by their spiritual leader Grand-Ajatollah Sistani (an iranian, by the way).

And because the shi ites are 60% of the iraqis they got the majority in the parliament. Then it was also a wish of Sistani and the mullahs in Iran that Al Maliki should be the president of Iraq - and so he became it.

His first visit was to Iran where he thanked President Ahmadinedjad for the iranian help and blamed the foreign occupation forces for the problems in Iraq.
That was years ago and shown in TV - even western TV.

During the next year Al Maliki systematicly kicked out sunnite high ranking officers out of the new iraqi army and police, replacing them with shi ites. So this new "iraqi" army/police becomes a shi ite instruments, which is also cooperating with the shi ite militias -  like in Basra or like during the execution of Saddam, where one of the shi ite militias replaced the execution team and performed the hanging of Saddam.
If the execution file still exists in youtube you can hear the executioners of Saddam, how they blame him for the death of of one shi ite Ajatollah and kill him before he could finish his prayer.

So why anyone should be surprised with the actual behavior of Al Maliki ?
This all happens since he was made president.
Logged
Pages: 1 [2] 3   Go Up
« previous next »