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Offline Ripsnort

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« on: July 17, 2007, 10:22:24 AM »
Pat Shanahan, mentioned in this story, used to be my first line supervisor in 1991. He actually gave me a retention (one of two allowed) when they laid off 400 tool makers in 1991.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22086910-1702,00.html?from=public_rss

Next step is to put the real laser weapon in the pod.
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Offline Choocha

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« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2007, 01:32:17 PM »
I heard these tests are usually a big scam.  They're rigged to get the performance numbers they want.  Even then, these ABS tests still often don't pass muster.

Also, given Boeings past on very large contracts like the tanker program, I wouldn't put 1% of trust in these results.
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« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2007, 01:43:14 PM »
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Originally posted by Choocha
I heard these tests are usually a big scam.  They're rigged to get the performance numbers they want.  Even then, these ABS tests still often don't pass muster.

Also, given Boeings past on very large contracts like the tanker program, I wouldn't put 1% of trust in these results.


You heard wrong.  As for the tanker program, that was a conflict of interest issue, and had no bearing on technical performance.  Boeing consistently delivers quality products and services.  I should know, I'm one of those responsible for supporting our Armed Forces.  I do so with pride.
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« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2007, 01:45:02 PM »
This whole thing revolves around the "Dip Gyro".
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« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2007, 01:51:50 PM »
What was wrong in the past with Boeings tankers??? The KC-135 program has been a great success. The air frame is reliable, and the upgrades over the years have done nothing but improve upon an already excellent aircraft.

Besides Boeing isn't building the laser, they just supplied the air frame and the 747 is reliable as hell.

Some of the greatest aircraft ever built were made by Boeing. I suppose you think the B-52 program was a big scam as well. Never mind that those planes are projected to serve for 100 years. What a piece of junk huh??? I suppose that since they built the worlds most advanced fighter aircraft that makes them more of a sucky company in your eyes as well.
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« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2007, 02:08:22 PM »
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I heard these tests are usually a big scam.  They're rigged to get the performance numbers they want.  Even then, these ABS tests still often don't pass muster.

Also, given Boeings past on very large contracts like the tanker program, I wouldn't put 1% of trust in these results.
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« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2007, 02:09:47 PM »
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What was wrong in the past with Boeings tankers??? The KC-135 program has been a great success. The air frame is reliable, and the upgrades over the years have done nothing but improve upon an already excellent aircraft.

Besides Boeing isn't building the laser, they just supplied the air frame and the 747 is reliable as hell.

Some of the greatest aircraft ever built were made by Boeing. I suppose you think the B-52 program was a big scam as well. Never mind that those planes are projected to serve for 100 years. What a piece of junk huh??? I suppose that since they built the worlds most advanced fighter aircraft that makes them more of a sucky company in your eyes as well.


The Chinook CH-47F just got a big contract. They've been around 44 years, 2nd oldest military design still being flown today.:aok
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« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2007, 03:00:20 PM »
You guys are eating the cornbread.


Rip,

How many Boeing execs went to jail on the tanker program?  Be honest, tell this forum the truth.

There's plenty of info. on the net about these fraud ABS tests.  Just for warm-up watch this:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/missile/view/


Then do some more research before you bother me with you cornbread eating answers.
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« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2007, 03:28:02 PM »
How many tankers are still flying??? One has nothing to do with the other. The tankers are exceptional aircraft with a long proud history of service that will continue for many more years. Besides the tanker program started back in the 50's. The folks that were making those shady deals back then are long gone. Or are you refering to Boeings new tanker program based on the 767 airframe?? I haven't heard anything negative about that program yet. From what I hear the Air Force really likes the new tanker and with any luck orders will be placed within the next few years.

But I'd really like to know what you have against Boeing?
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« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2007, 03:51:12 PM »
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You guys are eating the cornbread.


Rip,

How many Boeing execs went to jail on the tanker program?  Be honest, tell this forum the truth.

There's plenty of info. on the net about these fraud ABS tests.  Just for warm-up watch this:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/missile/view/


Then do some more research before you bother me with you cornbread eating answers.


One man was fired (Mike Sears) and his mistress fired, due to the fact that he had an affair with her, and she worked for the DOD prior to the negotiation of the tanker deal. It was an ethics violation, and when dealing with government contracts, that means a prison term, which he received.

FWIW, the tanker deal is back on the board again.[/url]

Who was bothering who again?  You came into this post with your drivel.

Next time come to the table with hard facts and data before you flap that pie hole of yours. I've yet to see you bring any evidence to the board that shows that this airborn laser is a crock.

And what the hell does cornbread have to do with a muffin man like you?
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« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2007, 04:05:17 PM »
I happen to REALLY like cornbread. Especially with ham and bean soup, so please stop talking about cornbread in a disparaging way. Thanks. :furious







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« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2007, 04:21:38 PM »
Airbus has partnered with Northrup Grummen to compete in this program.  Airbus clearly has a superior product that they intend to build in Alabama.  All of Boeings shinanigins will help it...until they get caught and some more execs go to jail.


Back to original point, the ABS tests have been filled with controversy to say the LEAST.  From out right lies to adding a little mustard to the numbers.
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« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2007, 04:46:43 PM »
Airbus clearly has a superior product
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« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2007, 04:48:34 PM »
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Airbus has partnered with Northrup Grummen to compete in this program.  Airbus clearly has a superior product that they intend to build in Alabama.  All of Boeings shinanigins will help it...until they get caught and some more execs go to jail.


Back to original point, the ABS tests have been filled with controversy to say the LEAST.  From out right lies to adding a little mustard to the numbers.


Facts.....



Data......

Please provide them.
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« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2007, 05:27:16 PM »
there is also a FedEx MD11 that tested the laser pods pictures are on airliners.net
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