Author Topic: plane question (Read 668 times)

Movie · « **on:** July 17, 2007, 03:43:13 PM »

I've been flying the FM2 wildcat for some time and been succesful in it, just got to the part where im bored with 50 cal mg... which is a smooth and good plane with a good pair of 20mm excluding spits

SIK1 · « **Reply #1 on:** July 17, 2007, 03:44:23 PM »

F4U-1C, and it has two pair of 20mm:aok

Movie · « **Reply #2 on:** July 17, 2007, 03:48:25 PM »

ok excluding that too lol

Lusche · « **Reply #3 on:** July 17, 2007, 03:54:34 PM »

Try the Hurricane2C. Four Hispanos but still turning like the FM2.

Krusty · « **Reply #4 on:** July 17, 2007, 04:17:52 PM »

Hurr2 turns better than the FM2!

Maybe you're not bored with the gun, so much as the plane itself. Try one of the later, faster, US planes with 6x50cal or 8x50cal.

Planes with a couple of 20mm that I'd recommend:

C205
Ki84
Fw190 (you have to be in the mood for it)
Spit14 (it doesn't fly like your average spit)
LA5
The 109s have 1 cannon, but most can add 2 more with gunpods.

tedrbr · « **Reply #5 on:** July 17, 2007, 05:26:22 PM »

Of those suggestions, the Ki84 is probably closest to FM. Ki-84 doesn't have the turn radius of the FM2, and not as rugged a plane as the FM2 (and pilot wounds can be common), but it has better climb, faster speed, better acceleration, much lower stall speed (IIRC). Ki-84 has a more lethal punch once you get the guns dialed in for yourself, but less firing time than the FM2. Ki-84 also has a great recharge rate on the WEP.

Krusty · « **Reply #6 on:** July 17, 2007, 05:31:48 PM »

Heh, I think the speed, climb, flaps, weapons, durability, etc etc make it as far from the FM2 as possible, Ted!

However, I have sustained a crapload of damage in it many many times and made it home in 1 piece. It's no zero. It can take a lot (as long as it's not in the pilot!)

Widewing · « **Reply #7 on:** July 17, 2007, 05:45:12 PM »

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Originally posted by Krusty
Hurr2 turns better than the FM2!

It does at sea level. Go up to 4k where the blower kicks in and the FM-2 is equal to the Hurri IIC in turn rate and turn radius.

It seems HTC humped up the FM-2's power curve by applying the MIL power curve to WEP...

For example, the FM-2's R1820-56W engine is rated at 1,475 hp at sea level in Combat power (53.2" MAP).

Unfortunately, HTC used the low blower MIL power curve and you can't get better than MIL power until you reach 4,000 feet. So, there is no manifold pressure increase at sea level when you engage WEP, when there should be a significant increase to 53.2".

Maybe they'll read this and fix it.

Combat (War Emergency) Power:

Blower---Low----Low----High---Low---Low
RPM------2600---2700---2600--2600--2700
BHP------1400---1410---1215--1440--1475
crit. alt--1100--1900--10,800---S.L.----S.L.
Speed---310.5-313.0---328.5--310--312.5
MAP-----50.5---50.0----51.8--51.8--53.2

See this

My regards,

Widewing

Movie · « **Reply #8 on:** July 18, 2007, 02:07:27 PM »

yesterday I tried the Ki-84 omg its a freaking beast, I got jumped by a pony d, temp, and p47 I slaughtered all of them only thing they hit was my aux fuel

Krusty · « **Reply #9 on:** July 18, 2007, 03:00:02 PM »

Widewing, from what I heard they were using an actual flight manual for the WEP on the FM2. I heard they pulled it way back (no WEP) and that a contributor supplied them with proof (via a pilot manual or some other official document) that it was "such and such boost".

I'm guessing it's that way on purpose.

EDIT: P.S. Movie, try diving on something!

Movie · « **Reply #10 on:** July 18, 2007, 03:59:52 PM »

krusty wat do u fly

Krusty · « **Reply #11 on:** July 18, 2007, 04:12:07 PM »

I fly lots. I even got good (really good) in P47s for a while. I was decent in P38s landing more than a handful of 10 kill sorties. I like 109s but don't seem to do so well. P51s are a lark to fly, and I prefer the B. I found out how nice the F6F is because of JoeDoe31 (former squaddie). 190s have always been interesting for historical and model-building-related reasons, even though they suck as planes. I've done okay in mossies before. I used to own anybody in a Ki61 (it was my "fun" ride). I did 1.5 weeks in LAs and got a 125 kills to 25 losses before getting so sick of it that I went back to "real" planes. I fly spits but generally not as a rule (just too damn easy). I've done zeros before but it's too much work because you can't chase anybody down.

However, through it all I've had 2 recurring favorites. Ever since Ki84 came out I've liked it (but I prefered the original boost level and the non-WEP version).

The second is the Macchi C.205. It's a unique plane with quirky handling, but as much ammo as a 190.

Pretty much I try to sample as many as I can. It's helped me learn some of the capabilities of the aircraft I come up against, as well.

Widewing · « **Reply #12 on:** July 18, 2007, 04:18:03 PM »

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Originally posted by Krusty
Widewing, from what I heard they were using an actual flight manual for the WEP on the FM2. I heard they pulled it way back (no WEP) and that a contributor supplied them with proof (via a pilot manual or some other official document) that it was "such and such boost".

I'm guessing it's that way on purpose.

Whether it was on purpose or not, it still disagrees with test data. Navy and manufacturer's data shows that the power curve in use is the MIL power curve, not WEP power. WEP should produce max MAP at sea level. It doesn't.

Use the link I provided to see the test data. I can also post the power curve chart if they want it.

My regards,

Widewing

Krusty · « **Reply #13 on:** July 18, 2007, 04:28:43 PM »

Checking DokGonzo's page, it seems to almost match that data. it does 302 on the deck instead of 308. The 312 seems to be if the regulator is bypassed (on the link you listed) and I'm guessing that was non-standard and non-sanctioned (perhaps why we don't have that?). Climb, speed, all seem very close between the two.

AH's does seem a little lower, but it's clearly a big boost over MilPow settings, in-game. AH is a good 15mph+ faster on WEP vs MilPow up to 5k, and still faster than mil above that.

I'd have to wait til I got home to check out what the in-game E6B lists for the FM2, but now you have me curious.

Movie · « **Reply #14 on:** July 18, 2007, 04:30:44 PM »

whats the most common plane in MA