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storch

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« Reply #30 on: July 20, 2007, 10:24:23 AM »
oh boy here we go again :D
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« Reply #31 on: July 20, 2007, 10:29:08 AM »
Abortions...another topic.
Toasting a living kitten alive for fun = this topic.
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« Reply #32 on: July 20, 2007, 10:36:46 AM »
Seagoon,

You cannot be serious about this?

If the girls wanted to simply euthanise the kittens that is one thing...burning them alive and laughing while they do so is something COMPLETELY different.

Doing so reveals they are completely devoid of morality.
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« Reply #33 on: July 20, 2007, 10:36:50 AM »
Hi GP,

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Children are of much greater value than cats and they have the right to kill their own children


Errrrrrrrrrrr...........wasnt aware anyone had the right to kill their own children...........oh well, proves I dont know everything.......or am I reading that wrong?


Wurzel


I'm not sure where you live GP, but in Sanoma county, those girls have the legal right to kill their own children until they have been around for 24 weeks and even after that if they can get a doctor to say it was necessary. Cat gestiation is 9 weeks, and the cat was 8 weeks old, so that's 17 weeks total. Yup, well within the acceptable range for children.

Or am I missing something about when we can and cannot impose our morality. I'm confused. So what you are saying is that cats at 17 weeks are more important than humans at 24 weeks?
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« Reply #34 on: July 20, 2007, 10:40:56 AM »
Was anyone here defending abortion ?
You are railing off the topic of sadistic and foolish animal torture.
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« Reply #35 on: July 20, 2007, 10:45:01 AM »
Ah, gotcha, sorry Seagoon, now with it..........and no, but there's no defence for setting fire to a kitten (which btw, was already born).....if its needs euthanising, fair enough, but to set fire to it? and then laugh? Gotta admit there's something just not right there m8...


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« Reply #36 on: July 20, 2007, 10:50:11 AM »
See Rule #2
« Last Edit: July 21, 2007, 06:32:29 AM by Skuzzy »
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« Reply #37 on: July 20, 2007, 10:54:56 AM »
No disrespect intended Seagoon, but the comparision of abortion and what these girls did to that kitten dont match up fella.


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« Reply #38 on: July 20, 2007, 10:57:04 AM »
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Was anyone here defending abortion ?
You are railing off the topic of sadistic and foolish animal torture.


Alright guys, I'll stop. I'm not in favor of animal torture and personally I think what they did was horrible as well. If my own children did it, the state would be the least of their worries.

Forgive me if I confused or offended anyone, I was certain everyone would catch on to the point I was making but if not my point was we get into a righteous dudgeon over cruelty to animals and have no problems "imposing our morality" and saying that only the wicked would assert that it was their choice to burn their cat, and that there is an objective and absolute standard that should prevent such actions regardless of ownership and other circumstances, but we don't apply the same standards to their children, quite the opposite in fact.

Again, my apologies, I'll try to be kinder and more transparent in future.
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« Reply #39 on: July 20, 2007, 11:20:40 AM »
It was an interesting comparison, Seagoon, and your point should have been evident to anyone following the abortion discussion in the other thread. Ignore anyone who thinks you were defending animal torture.

As for these two girls: Someone who does this is either so intellectually damaged that they can't grasp that they are hurting others, or (even worse) they do realize it and simply don't care. Either way, they need to be removed from society.
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« Reply #40 on: July 20, 2007, 11:31:14 AM »
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Hi GP,

 

I'm not sure where you live GP, but in Sanoma county, those girls have the legal right to kill their own children until they have been around for 24 weeks and even after that if they can get a doctor to say it was necessary. Cat gestiation is 9 weeks, and the cat was 8 weeks old, so that's 17 weeks total. Yup, well within the acceptable range for children.

Or am I missing something about when we can and cannot impose our morality. I'm confused. So what you are saying is that cats at 17 weeks are more important than humans at 24 weeks?

What degree's do you hold and are any of them in science?
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« Reply #41 on: July 20, 2007, 11:47:13 AM »
I'm not defending what those girls did. It was cruel and unnecessary. However, I am defending their right to do what they did (if indeed they owned the cat). The cat is property, nothing more. In my country we have laws against animal cruelty , but I don't think the USA does.  I might be wrong though?
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« Reply #42 on: July 20, 2007, 11:55:06 AM »
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The cat is property, nothing more. In my country we have laws against animal cruelty , but I don't think the USA does.  I might be wrong though?


All states in the US have laws against animal cruelty. In many states it's a felony with imprisonment up to 10 years.

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« Reply #43 on: July 20, 2007, 12:05:35 PM »
I completely misunderstood your stance Seagoon, apologies.

On the other hand I'm not about to enter into an abortion debate.
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« Reply #44 on: July 20, 2007, 12:07:00 PM »
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All states in the US have laws against animal cruelty. In many states it's a felony with imprisonment up to 10 years.

Thanks for playing.

It's just not often enforced beyond fines, and very rarely enforced against kids under the age of 18.  In most cases, the kids will receive court mandated treatment and therapy... but as that happened in the People Republic of Kalifornia, they might just wad them up in cotton and give them a hug and blame it all on the parents (that's it, jail the folks for this one!).  
Best scenario would be the parents can't afford private and quality therapy and the kids are institutionalized in the state run system..... that ought to keep em good and traumatized, and well sedated, for a while.  

Pets are often considered "property" in most states, and the owner does often have the right to put the animal down.... but in regards to the animal cruelty laws, how they do so is supposed to be humane, quick, and relatively painless.  Dosing with flammables and torching them is not the legal way to euthanize a cat in any state, and not supposed to be a fun game.  


And boo to Seagoon's weak hijack attempt of the thread.  You need to practice up on that.
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