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Offline Lusche

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« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2007, 05:01:16 PM »
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As far as tank vs tank combat goes, they're equals. .


They are not. The stats prove you are wrong.
While the Sherman is a dangerous foe to the Tiger and capable off killing a Tiger with one shot (depending on range & placement!), the Tiger is FAR more dangerous to the Sherman
Personal experiences are a quite subjective matter:

Tour 87: K/D 1.75
Tiger I has 2891 Kills of Sherman VC
Sherman VC has 1651 Kills of Tiger I


Tour 88: K/D 1.77
Tiger I has 3360 Kills of Sherman VC
Sherman VC has 1898 Kills of Tiger I

Tour 89: K/D 1.71
Tiger I has 2869 Kills of Sherman VC
Sherman VC has 1677 Kills of Tiger I

Tour 90: K/D 1.90
Tiger I has 1825 Kills of Sherman VC
Sherman VC has 962 Kills of Tiger I
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« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2007, 05:03:48 PM »
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tigers r garbage now, yes i have 2 agree... i got hit wit 1 M-4 shell... 1 hit kill.. and it hit me in the front not on turret or fuel tank engine and so on...


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First off, the M4 we have does not fire teh standard 75mm round the normal M4 Sherman used to fire.  We have the British Firefly version, it had a 17 pounder as a main gun.  It was quite capable of killing a Tiger I with a shot to the front armor over 1,000 meters away using regular APC rounds.  

Just be thankful the Firefly isn't using the more advanced APCBC and APDS rounds which were capable of taking out a Tiger I from over 2,000 meters.

So, if the Firefly wsa quite capable of taking out a Tiger I at long distances in one shot, why shouldn't it be any different in game?



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« Reply #17 on: July 22, 2007, 06:22:15 PM »
At least we can all agree that the T34 is obsolete and always has been.
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« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2007, 06:33:48 PM »
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At least we can all agree that the T34 is obsolete and always has been.


Not in EW ;)
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« Reply #19 on: July 22, 2007, 08:38:21 PM »
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They are not. The stats prove you are wrong.
While the Sherman is a dangerous foe to the Tiger and capable off killing a Tiger with one shot (depending on range & placement!), the Tiger is FAR more dangerous to the Sherman
Personal experiences are a quite subjective matter:

Tour 87: K/D 1.75
Tiger I has 2891 Kills of Sherman VC
Sherman VC has 1651 Kills of Tiger I


Tour 88: K/D 1.77
Tiger I has 3360 Kills of Sherman VC
Sherman VC has 1898 Kills of Tiger I

Tour 89: K/D 1.71
Tiger I has 2869 Kills of Sherman VC
Sherman VC has 1677 Kills of Tiger I

Tour 90: K/D 1.90
Tiger I has 1825 Kills of Sherman VC
Sherman VC has 962 Kills of Tiger I



I believe that has more to do with the people in the vehicles, rather than the vehicles themselves.
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« Reply #20 on: July 22, 2007, 08:42:01 PM »
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I believe that has more to do with the people in the vehicles, rather than the vehicles themselves.


In wich way? I don't see all the "better" gv drivers driving Tigers only (And if they did.. what reason would they have to take a Tiger anyway if it's perked but not better than a Firefly? ;) )

The K/D difference is way to high to be dependend on driver skill only - its similar to the Sherman vs Panzer k/D
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« Reply #21 on: July 22, 2007, 10:08:59 PM »
Also take into account that nobody is going to up a Tiger to try and break a spawn camp. They'll up a couple thousand Shermans, though.
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« Reply #22 on: July 22, 2007, 11:50:18 PM »
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They are not. The stats prove you are wrong.
While the Sherman is a dangerous foe to the Tiger and capable off killing a Tiger with one shot (depending on range & placement!), the Tiger is FAR more dangerous to the Sherman
Personal experiences are a quite subjective matter:

Tour 87: K/D 1.75
Tiger I has 2891 Kills of Sherman VC
Sherman VC has 1651 Kills of Tiger I


Tour 88: K/D 1.77
Tiger I has 3360 Kills of Sherman VC
Sherman VC has 1898 Kills of Tiger I

Tour 89: K/D 1.71
Tiger I has 2869 Kills of Sherman VC
Sherman VC has 1677 Kills of Tiger I

Tour 90: K/D 1.90
Tiger I has 1825 Kills of Sherman VC
Sherman VC has 962 Kills of Tiger I


the reason there aren't as many kills, is because of the fact that no one uses them anymore. :D
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« Reply #23 on: July 22, 2007, 11:51:13 PM »
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Also take into account that nobody is going to up a Tiger to try and break a spawn camp. They'll up a couple thousand Shermans, though.


Exactly. Perk it. :aok
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« Reply #24 on: July 23, 2007, 12:01:26 AM »
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In wich way? I don't see all the "better" gv drivers driving Tigers only (And if they did.. what reason would they have to take a Tiger anyway if it's perked but not better than a Firefly? ;) )

The K/D difference is way to high to be dependend on driver skill only - its similar to the Sherman vs Panzer k/D


Because tigers are a lot sexier. I still look for an excuse to spawn a tiger, but I wont do it if I expect more than 2 M4s inbound. The chances just arent good.

PERK THE SHERMAN!!!
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« Reply #25 on: July 23, 2007, 02:54:43 AM »
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Because tigers are a lot sexier. I still look for an excuse to spawn a tiger, but I wont do it if I expect more than 2 M4s inbound. The chances just arent good.

PERK THE SHERMAN!!!


if there is 1 guy camping the VH ill up a t34, kill him, land, grab a tiger.

if there are more than 1 ill up a t34, kill him land up another one...and so on.

You can kill them faster because you don't have to reload.
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« Reply #26 on: July 23, 2007, 05:40:56 AM »
The tiger still has a slight advantage vs planes. The sherman is alot easyer to kill from the air than the tiger is. In tank vs tank ill rather take the sherman because it reloads and turns its turret faster.
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« Reply #27 on: July 23, 2007, 05:56:22 AM »
I believe I saw somewhere that perks will become a factor with the Sherman when they get around to adding a perked loadout system.
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« Reply #28 on: July 23, 2007, 06:30:44 AM »
The Sherman turret does traverse faster than the Tiger but the reload seem to be a little longer than a Tiger. Still it is much faster than the 2 week T34 reload. The T-34 still has it's uses. The sloped armor and higher speed causes other tanks to expend more time killing you and can allow your buddies a shot or two at them. I think that the Panzer has become little more than a T34 with a better gun, and lesser armor. I have stopped taking Panzers out when Shermans are available.
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« Reply #29 on: July 23, 2007, 08:25:34 AM »
when does school start again?
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