Author Topic: What is a good rifle? (Read 3158 times)

eagl · « **Reply #30 on:** July 24, 2007, 07:16:09 PM »

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Originally posted by forHIM
Eagl,

Is that the ultra mag or regular mag? I have the ultra mag version that I only use on elk and it's ammo cost is about $2 a shell. My brother gets them reloaded for about $0.70 a piece which saves some.

Reg 7mm Rem Mag.

Cost is high because I originally sighted it in with some premium heavy winchester brand stuff that was rated very highly by some shooting mags, and the results were so good that I've been afraid to try anything else. You just don't mess with 1" groups at 200 yds off of a sandbag rest

Masherbrum · « **Reply #31 on:** July 24, 2007, 09:54:07 PM »

There is a family friend up North here in Michigan that bags about 10 deer a year with a 22-250. He takes head shots as long they aren't running. They eat the venison all year.

Mark Luper · « **Reply #32 on:** July 24, 2007, 09:58:22 PM »

I had a Rem 700BDL with a bull barrel in 22-250 once. Did my own loading and worked on the gun a bit. Best 3 shot sand-bagged group at 200 yrds was .130" center to center using a 20 power scope. Wish I still had that rifle. Great shooter.

Word.

Mark

Angus · « **Reply #33 on:** July 25, 2007, 03:48:41 AM »

7mm is scary! A friend of mine has that. He said it's so good that shooting is almost boring!

lazs2 · « **Reply #34 on:** July 25, 2007, 08:19:39 AM »

I had a mossberg heavy barrel 22-250 and it was an accurate rifle. A good caliber but pretty hard on barrels and cases.

Angus.. it is not really as much of a "shame" as you might think.. tho almost forgotten... there are still thousands of the guns out there and hundreds of new ones made every year.

It is just that we have such a myriad of choices that people don't stick to one caliber anymore. This is a good thing in my opinion.. we are allowed a lot of choice in firearms and it makes for a great situation for the sport, hunter and hobby shooter alike.

Oh.. my first rifle was a 1960 remington single shot and that gun was deadly accurate... course... 10 year old eyes were like micrometers...

lazs

Angus · « **Reply #35 on:** July 25, 2007, 08:50:26 AM »

They say Sako 22-250 HB is one good one too.
BTW they go both Reindeer hunting and Fox-hunting with those heavier ones. We get quite some hunters up here from abroad. Most actually are after the wild geese, but the sport is stretching into the reindeers and beginning with the foxes also.
If you are going to come over the pond, consider a stopover, - I might be able to pull some hunting ropes for ya.
I would have to find out if you can bring your own guns though. Not sure how that works.

lazs2 · « **Reply #36 on:** July 25, 2007, 08:59:27 AM »

angus... I like all guns. When I was in canada at my brothers place I reserected a couple of barn find 22 rifles that were in various states of disrepair.

cleaned and fixed and tested they were old but true.

I spent a fun couple of days with him and his friends shooting hundreds of "gophers" as they called em.

I don't need my guns to have fun... I simply can't live in a place that puts too many restrictions on what I can own.

It makes me feel less than a human with human rights to be told by someone not fit to carry my ammo what guns I can have.

lazs

Halo · « **Reply #37 on:** July 25, 2007, 02:16:16 PM »

Foo on the Ruger 10-22, world's most overrated gun. Had a good older model, but the newer rifle I bought a year ago had the worst possible magazine release and bolt lock, and the bolt should have locked open after last shot anyway.

Took the advice of many others and got a Marlin Model 60 which is superb. And a single shot Savage I-G which is precision shooting personified.

lazs2 · « **Reply #38 on:** July 25, 2007, 02:27:19 PM »

yeah... I just don't see the attraction for the ruger 10/22. just about any pawn shop single shot bolt action 22 will outshoot it once the pawnshop gun is cleaned up and at worst... recrowned. I have recrowned em with a drill bit and lapping compound. Have taken about a pound of lead out of the old barrels too.

10/22... brand new... is not worth running 22 ammo through in my opinion. I have no interest in em.

lazs

FBBone · « **Reply #39 on:** July 25, 2007, 02:39:45 PM »

You guys remember the Remington Nylon 66, or the Apache 77? Almost entirely built of nylon impregnated plastic, light to carry, obviously, and quite accurate. I still have my Apache and will carry that long before I would want to carry my 10/22. Marlin Model 60 and Savage semi-auto (can't remember the model number) are my # 2 and 3 choices.

Chairboy · « **Reply #40 on:** July 25, 2007, 02:53:06 PM »

I'd like to revisit my answer with a little more detail behind my rationale.

A good rifle is one that you can shoot often. A Safe Queen that leaves your house twice a year for deer season wouldn't meet this criteria for me, even if it fired laser guided smartrounds, was hand crafted by Sir. Winchester himself, or had a five inch thick match-barrel.

That's why I like the Ruger 10-22. You can run thousands of rounds through it cheap. You spend your time shooting instead of hand loading and operating a bolt, you build up the fundamentals in a way that a super gun with heavy grain can never offer, and you can customize it any damn way you want. If you're a paunchy gamer who wants something that looks like an M-16, done, there's a stock for it. You want a laser because you saw it in a movie? There's like 20 different choices. You want to spent time refining the accuracy? Get a new barrel and spent some time on the firing mechanism. There are kits, if you're so inclined, to assist. Want 25 round banana clips? Sure. Metal lipped clips for better reliability? Sure.

As far as Good rifles go, I'd argue that it's hard to beat the 10-22 because of the factors I mentioned. In brief: Price to buy, price to operate, flexibility, and fundamentals. These are all fields in which the 10-22 scores very well. There are rifles that are better in some areas at the expense of others, but for an all around good, cheap rifle, my money is on the 10-22.

hyena426 · « **Reply #41 on:** July 25, 2007, 02:54:47 PM »

10/22's are cheap and offer a alot aftermarket parts than no other 22 offers..folding stocks...banna clips...drum clips...even a bipod set up were you can run 2 of them at once with a hand crank like a gatling gun....i know there is no other 22 offers as much extra's...i dont own one and dout i will unless i get so cheap i cant refuse..lol

my brother has a older 10/22 ruger tube fed long barrel...if i had a 10/22 i would try to get his..he has owned it for a good 20 years and it still hammers away and is dead on.

hyena426 · « **Reply #42 on:** July 25, 2007, 02:57:45 PM »

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You guys remember the Remington Nylon 66,

oohh yes..i use to have one..lol..and at are local gun shop there is a old nylon rem sitting over there for rather cheap..i allmost thought about it..but i really dont need any more 22's at the moment..lol

Maverick · « **Reply #43 on:** July 25, 2007, 03:11:46 PM »

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Originally posted by FBBone
You guys remember the Remington Nylon 66, or the Apache 77? Almost entirely built of nylon impregnated plastic, light to carry, obviously, and quite accurate. I still have my Apache and will carry that long before I would want to carry my 10/22. Marlin Model 60 and Savage semi-auto (can't remember the model number) are my # 2 and 3 choices.

I liked that model Remington as well. I'd like to get one if I find one at a good price. I also like the old Remington model 600 centerfire rifle. I didn't mind the odd looking sights. I finally got one a few years ago, a nice short carbine in .308 that's a great shooter.

Saxman · « **Reply #44 on:** July 25, 2007, 06:26:51 PM »

Can't go wrong with this beauty.